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Re: Qanat

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one btw doesn't include the one that is strangest to me: that Chinese for mom or momma is 妈妈 "mama" and pop , pappa is 爸爸 "baba".

These are nearly universal AFAIK. I've heard stipulated a link between this and the fact that these are the first sounds a child will learn.

> these are the first sounds a child will learn.

Not really, no. 'Gaga' or 'kaka' are just as easy yet aren't universal. The mystery is not solved. (Could be just areal effects, for example.)

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post #39

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> Most words in English come from two different roots, the German one and the Latin one. Not quite? What I'm going to say is not exact but as a first approximation it should be okay[1]. English is a Germanic language[2]. Most (all?) common words in Modern English share a common ancestor with their counterparts in Modern German/Dutch/Swedish/Danish/Swiss/Norwegian -- I've left out a bunch, sorry! So lexically and stru…

You left out the Arabic influence, which is considerable for a huge amount of words in the sciences, math, chemistry, astrology, geology, botany and so on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Arabi...

Well … I didn't single it out even though it is on the border of being statistically significant but then again I did not mention any Semitic language. I didn't technically leave it out; it's lumped together in the "rest of the the world" bucket. Going by the link you gave me there are ~150 words of Arabic origin in English excluding domain specific jargon, far less than 1% of the language. But I take your point -- probably coming after the languages I mentioned and taking into account the order I mentioned them in Arabic would come next.

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post #26

I first encountered this word reading Frank Herbert's Dune, so it was a bit odd when I encountered it in other literature. Later I realised one of the great things about Herbert's SF - he uses many real-world cultures as sources for his world building

For me it was like having an insight into the subtext of the series. Quite a lot of Persian (PadehShah for king) , Arabic (Karama for blessings) , and Islamic (Mahdi for The Guided One), for example.

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post #13

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There's a great list of these at https://web.archive.org/web/20070227031854/http://members.ao...

This one btw doesn't include the one that is strangest to me: that Chinese for mom or momma is 妈妈 "mama" and pop , pappa is 爸爸 "baba".

The 'ma' and 'pa' sounds are some of the easiest sounds to make by babies since they just require the lips and don't involve the tongue.

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I saw lots of these in Morocco, between the mountains and the Sahara.

Well, what I saw were the regularly spaced mounds of earth at the top of the access shafts.

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Its funny to see this on HN! I was born and grown up in a warm area in Iran full of qanats and to me it seems such a natural thing. I caught my first fish from a qanat!

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The section about using qanats for cooling and ice storage by the Persians around 400 BCE [1] is fascinating. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhchal

the last photo in the link was 10 min walk from my house. At that time (20yrs ago) they'd turned it into a ball pool for kids to play. Currently they've turned it into a Zoorkhaneh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahlevani_and_zoorkhaneh_ritua...). This is nostalgic!
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