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Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by mjevans »

protomyth wrote: post #37
civilian wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know there's been an effort to use the word "Cannabis" as a way to sound legitimate, instead of pot/weed/marijuana. Do you react better to 'cannabis'?

You're right, I don't react better at all. They should stick with saying "THC and related compounds" instead. Its basically the same argument I have for the thorium folks, do not use "reactor" or "nuclear" in any naming or marketing.

Sort of like my own personal stance on 'breeder reactors' being 'waste reduction reactors'.

The problem with most of that 'waste' (at least the non-byproducts kind) is that it's exactly that, actual waste instead of burnt fuel.

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by nsxwolf »

fluxquanta wrote: post #27
sageabilly wrote: post #16

It's great to see the advances in research that are being done around Psilocybin, MDMA, and Ketamine as the results that are coming out look incredibly promising. That being said, godDAMN how in the hell is anyone ever going to take studies like this seriously when they're being reported as "Magic Mushrooms" in Scientific American of all places? This isn't raver kiddies eating dried who-knows-what out of ziplock bags…

Whenever pot-culture words come up in "reporting" about medical treatments I immediately tune out. That's not to say there aren't any potential health benefits but "toking herb" (or whatever) isn't the best way to present them to people who still demonize it.

Well every medical marijuana dispensary I've seen looks like a head shop. Granny walks in with arthritis and walks out with her "blueberry kush" and wearing a crochet rainbow hat.

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Post by trhway »

i think we'll be looking back at our time with amusement to say the least - these people, like millions others, were having serious problems for decades (17.8 years avg in the article) while known remedies like cannabis, mushrooms and other stuff is just prohibited out of the irrational fear and powergrab desire driving the war on drugs.

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by yarou »

protomyth wrote: post #37
civilian wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know there's been an effort to use the word "Cannabis" as a way to sound legitimate, instead of pot/weed/marijuana. Do you react better to 'cannabis'?

You're right, I don't react better at all. They should stick with saying "THC and related compounds" instead. Its basically the same argument I have for the thorium folks, do not use "reactor" or "nuclear" in any naming or marketing.

I think the word you're looking for is cannabinoids. You don't call opiates "morphine and related compounds".

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by sickbeard »

pigpaws wrote: post #34

Legalize, standardize, tax, repeat. Why is it that difficult? People will do anything to keep their grip on (perceived) power - even if it means destroying someone's life. Gov't doesn't really want jobs, or tax revenue at the expense of their jobs. What would cops do if they weren't locking up kids for a joint?

Are you saying people who smoke weed do it for life and death situations?

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by eloff »

pigpaws wrote: post #34

Legalize, standardize, tax, repeat. Why is it that difficult? People will do anything to keep their grip on (perceived) power - even if it means destroying someone's life. Gov't doesn't really want jobs, or tax revenue at the expense of their jobs. What would cops do if they weren't locking up kids for a joint?

Not everything is a giant conspiracy theory. If society changed to the point where drugs didn't have such a stigma against them, then the politicians would legalize them. They excel at doing things that are popular - be it good or bad things. Case in point Canada with their goal of legalizing marijuana.

It's harder to do that in the US because you have more conservative people who see drugs as morally repugnant. My prediction is blue states will continue legalizing and red states will be the last holdout.

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by function_seven »

davidw wrote: post #38
sageabilly wrote: post #16

It's great to see the advances in research that are being done around Psilocybin, MDMA, and Ketamine as the results that are coming out look incredibly promising. That being said, godDAMN how in the hell is anyone ever going to take studies like this seriously when they're being reported as "Magic Mushrooms" in Scientific American of all places? This isn't raver kiddies eating dried who-knows-what out of ziplock bags…

> Scientific American My wife got that for a year, and I was quite unimpressed. It's not that detailed, mostly, and there's a lot of not very rigorous editorializing, from what I recall. Also, their 'please renew' campaign was quite deceiptful, sending us some kind of "you owe $$$!!!" notice that was really "you owe $$$ if you want to resubscribe".

> Also, their 'please renew' campaign was quite deceiptful, sending us some kind of "you owe $$$!!!" notice that was really "you owe $$$ if you want to resubscribe".

It amazes me how the entire magazine industry is like this. The most staid and respectable publications have circulation departments that make my local used car dealer look like a saint. It's a huge disconnect, and has always bothered me.

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