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Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Post by 6stringmerc »

whatok wrote: post #24
aarmenante wrote: post #16

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Yep. Apple got the rights. You can get it in two weeks for free, but have to buy it to hear it today. The worst part is it's working... I caved and bought it. It's fire by the way...

Wow, Apple securing exclusives on mixtapes is some of the corniest shit I've heard of. Get money and all but damn.

Yeah speaking of corny you should read the back-story on how Jay-Z worked a deal with Samsung(?) and some marketing team folks to block out enough downloads/streams/whatever with Rihanna's new album so it would be, essentually, guaranteed to go Gold its first week. Is it really a Gold certification if your label bought it for you?

The Chance thing, other than getting money, might be an approach to see if they can wiggle into Grammy contention. That's a rumor though. Will have to see if it works.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Post by 6stringmerc »

whatok wrote: post #39
6stringmerc wrote: post #38

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Eh, I don't think you can say Houston's influence didn't cross into the mainstream. Mike Jones and Paul Wall definitely broke through and hit the top of the charts for a while. Drake just had a sample of Pimp C on his latest Views. The incorporation of the Lean'd out style is really present in contemporary big hits, and I think - maybe I'm off on it - that a lot of that can be traced back to the Houston scene, or the…

i hate drake edit: I can point to Houston influence in so much music but yeah definitely dont get its due props.

He's not my style in the least but in referencing mainstream he's about as big as you can get without mentioning another Canadian who frequently tops the charts, just gotta point that out. I do think Houston's rep though is kind of frozen in the past, in that I agree there's not a lot of newcomers (from what I can tell) going to the top via Houston. Latest big name from Texas I can see is Post Malone and he reps 214.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Post by yanowitz »

madethemcry wrote: post #22

I'm impressed by the effort he put into this. But I can't find anything older then 2002. I mean the most interesting times where anything before, especially the 80s & 90s. Did I miss something or this this just a huge load of more or less modern mix tapes leaving out all the old gold nuggets from the good times ? I understand that these tapes are scraped from torrents which might be the reason that most analogue cass…

I'm listening to this blast from my past: https://archive.org/download/Kool_DJ_Red_Alert_-_Radio_Mix_9...

Even has Scott La Rock up front...

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Post by whatok »

6stringmerc wrote: post #42
whatok wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i hate drake edit: I can point to Houston influence in so much music but yeah definitely dont get its due props.

He's not my style in the least but in referencing mainstream he's about as big as you can get without mentioning another Canadian who frequently tops the charts, just gotta point that out. I do think Houston's rep though is kind of frozen in the past, in that I agree there's not a lot of newcomers (from what I can tell) going to the top via Houston. Latest big name from Texas I can see is Post Malone and he reps 214.

Oh, definitely agree, I just can't stand him at all and have to express it at all times. Drake thinking he could rap on June 27 is borderline blasphemous and if Pimp C didn't want to do Big Pimpin' with Jay-Z, there's zero chance he would be associated with Drake.

I haven't really kept up with rap in a few years so I'll take your word for it but yeah I haven't heard of anyone really either.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Post by aarmenante »

6stringmerc wrote: post #21

This is definitely culturally relevant and very cool to see it being treated as such. That whole motif of Mixtape cover art is a trip and a half to me, seeing these cliches over and over and over. As for the Mixtapes themselves, I'm still kind of reluctant to jump all-in on the Copyright free-for-all that Rap likes to work with (e.g. Tarantino's Kill Bill siren) and occasionally gets called out on. I think retaining…

Speaking of trippy album art...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pen_%26_Pixel

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Post by Unklejoe »

aarmenante wrote: post #8

Mixtapes are kind of the open-source version of rap music. Sort of free to download, remix, and distribute. Sort of... Almost every rapper who is popular right now (meaning, being played on the radio, touring...) has released their music for FREE, months, if not years, before being available for sale on iTunes, or CD. Sure, the iTunes version was mastered by someone who wasn't stoned, but it's pretty crazy that argua…

> [but it's pretty crazy that arguably one of the most popular forms of music in the world is distributed for free]

I agree and I love it.

I think it partly has to with the fact that many rappers started out in the actual ghetto by selling mixtapes (many from my local area such as Meek, Cassidy, Beanie Sigel, etc...).

Releasing mixtapes shows that thay're still related to the streets and haven't gone completely commercial yet (sold out), which is important depending on the type of vibe that they're aiming for. For example, it's very important for someone like Meek Mill to maintain an image of being "real", where as it's not as big of a deal for someone like Drake who's more along the lines of a pop star.

Submitting to the demands of a record label goes against everything that conventional hip hop stands for in my opinion, so I'm glad that these guys keep releasing their mixtapes for free.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Post by llamataboot »

6stringmerc wrote: post #33
don_loemax wrote: post #26

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Same with Spotify, although I have heard from a publicist yesterday that Spotify plans to announce at IMS next week that they will begin supporting mixes/mixtapes very soon, but I am betting they will require "papered" mixes (as in all songs and samples cleared by ip owners, which is very rare in the mixtape world and could be argued is against the entire philosophy of the free mixtape...). Mixcloud and podcast servi…

Yes, go take a look at Dubset and their Mixbank approach - it's advertised as a way for DJs / remix producers / mixtape creators to get their versions approved and out into the wild and both parties (original and derivative version) are compensated according to some deals hammered out. It looks like progress is coming in this arena - SoundCloud probably has a lot of those deals in place now (they're claiming the days…

Soundcloud currently denies, but there are huge rumors that they are about to crack down a lot of DJ mixes again.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/following-licensing-deals-soundcl...

I have switched to Mixcloud for all my mixes, but not ideal because their streaming can be flaky and you can't scroll back in time.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Post by edkennedy »

madethemcry wrote: post #22

I'm impressed by the effort he put into this. But I can't find anything older then 2002. I mean the most interesting times where anything before, especially the 80s & 90s. Did I miss something or this this just a huge load of more or less modern mix tapes leaving out all the old gold nuggets from the good times ? I understand that these tapes are scraped from torrents which might be the reason that most analogue cass…

Yes, I was a bit disappointed by the selection. Very modern hip hop and kind of a grab bag of pop hop.
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