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Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by devsquid »

virmundi wrote: post #21
butz wrote: post #2

And it is still slower than good old Eclipse.

I know you're getting down voted, but I agree. In my experience, in both Windows VMs and on OS X, Intellij is just slow. From the VM side, Eclipse compiled quick, Tomcat restarted great, JUnits flew. To be fair this was pretty straight forward Spring MVC/Services, no web plugins for HTML5 stuff. Intellij for Web Development (Gulp, and AngularJS support) was just terrible. The UI would be unresponsive. It could take m…

from my exp on Mac. Intellij is the fastest IDE. Sure beats the shit out of Xcode.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by lallysingh »

swiley wrote: post #42

What's wrong with a sane makefile oriented thing with a small tool chain and letting the user pick the editor/IDE? Why does every large company build out this ridiculous IDE for their product?

I usually use the command line for Android work, with emacs. But people demand IDEs these days. So here we are.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by rpgmaker »

0xFFC wrote: post #6
butz wrote: post #2

And it is still slower than good old Eclipse.

Not just slower , it does not fit to native look and feel, You are not going to believe me how much time I spent for fixing ridiculous font rendering for Android Studio, at the end I just gave up (in Ubuntu. I tried all kind of patches, TuxJdk, changing arguments for OpenJdk, OracleJdk , changing fontconfig, using infinality and anything you can imagine. nothing works). Right now I am switching to Xamarin,Perfect sup…

> You are not going to believe me how much time I spent for fixing ridiculous font rendering for Android Studio, at the end I just gave up (in Ubuntu. I tried all kind of patches, TuxJdk, changing arguments for OpenJdk, OracleJdk , changing fontconfig, using infinality and anything you can imagine. nothing works).

I went through all that BS so I feel your pain, but thanks to the IDE gods the IntelliJ people fixed the Linux font rendering issue in their 2016.1 release. They now include a custom JRE that fixes it. This custom JRE can also be used in Android Studio (and surely any other Swing java programs) just create a symbolic link pointing to it inside Android Studio's root folder and you're done. Needless to say this is way more elegant and safe than the ridiculous TuxJdk "fix".

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by xirdstl »

pjmlp wrote: post #24
airless_cotton wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Migrating to sbt-android has been a revelation coming from Gradle. It's bizarre that a one-man-team beats the mighty Google in pretty much everything. The build is so freaking fast that it runs ProGuard by default – and beats a Gradle build without ProGuard. That dev implemented and shipped Instant Run way before Google "invented" it, and it's still faster compared to Google's implementation.

I really don't get their hype around Gradle, if it wasn't for it, most likely no one would care about Groovy any more. Since my focus is the NDK, which keeps being half-done in Gradle, I keep using Ant + ndk-build and have migrated to Visual Studio 2015 for my Android hobby coding.

Was it ever popular in SV? No. That doesn't mean no one is using or cares about it.

For my day job, we use Groovy for our Spring Boot app. I love it.

I've also done a lot of Grails development, which I enjoyed also.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by pjmlp »

xirdstl wrote: post #45
pjmlp wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't get their hype around Gradle, if it wasn't for it, most likely no one would care about Groovy any more. Since my focus is the NDK, which keeps being half-done in Gradle, I keep using Ant + ndk-build and have migrated to Visual Studio 2015 for my Android hobby coding.

Was it ever popular in SV? No. That doesn't mean no one is using or cares about it. For my day job, we use Groovy for our Spring Boot app. I love it. I've also done a lot of Grails development, which I enjoyed also.

It was popular in Germany around 2007. All JUGs were doing presentations about Groovy and Grails.

It was even on JEE roadmap to be an alternative language for JSF applications, presented at JSF Days in Vienna.

Nowadays if it wasn't for Gradle, I wouldn't even notice it exists.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by ajford »

lallysingh wrote: post #43
swiley wrote: post #42

What's wrong with a sane makefile oriented thing with a small tool chain and letting the user pick the editor/IDE? Why does every large company build out this ridiculous IDE for their product?

I usually use the command line for Android work, with emacs. But people demand IDEs these days. So here we are.

Any chance you feel up to sharing? I've been wanting to get into Android dev work, but I'm staunchly a CLI guy, and I've had a hard time trying to figure out the IDEs Google keeps pushing out. Not to mention the obscene sizes of these damn IDEs.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by [deleted] »

josteink wrote: post #3
butz wrote: post #2

And it is still slower than good old Eclipse.

Much better to use though. Eclipse just feels like drowning, if you're not already into it. Android studio lets you pull out what you need, when you need it and doesn't just throw everything in your face like eclipse (and there's a lot it it there!) either you need it or not. I'm guessing there's a reason Google decided to obsolete their eclipse-based Android SDK tools.

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Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by pjmlp »

ikurei wrote: post #36
eco wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For several months XCode would just crash when I tried to run my application with debugging. It was eventually fixed by an XCode update. I think the only large platform owning company that has really succeeded with development tools is Microsoft. With Microsoft's newfound interest in cross platform development I'm looking forward to the day when I can just develop entirely in Visual Studio.

Worked as a .net dev for ~3 years, and I loved VS, but it had its share of random problems too. I remember it flipping out and suddenly consuming a shitload of CPU and RAM for no apparent reason, even working on fairly small projects. It was nearly impossible to work with it until I switched to a more powerful PC. Is it really fair to say xCode is not a successful tool? A lot of people use it, and I don't hear enough…

Those of us that also use the NDK are mostly using Visual Studio, NVidia CodeWorks or trying to keep using Eclipse CDT tooling (there is a fork of it).

Google deprecated the Eclipse CDT and ndk-build support, went silent for two years, announced an initial CLion integration at last Google IO and since Android Studio 1.5, its support or NDK support for that matter, hardly changed.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by beefsack »

dkopi wrote: post #12

Long time eclipse user, impossible to go back after using android studio. It feels like programming with one hand tied behind my back.

I'm always surprised at how many people willingly put up with Eclipse's clunkiness and performance problems, regardless of how many functions it provides.
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