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One thing yo remember is Norway isnt partnof NATO, which makes quite a bit of difference in this. Still not sure what the end result will be, but good luck to Snowden and I hope Norway does it. If only so I dont have to hear any more ignoramouses talk about how Snowden went to Russia on purpose.
Norway IS a full NATO member.
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> sea route Through international or territorial waters of third countries? Not unless he's hitching a ride on RFS Bespokoynyy.
You can stay in Russian/Norwegian waters. The quicker option would probably be Finnish/Swedish waters from St.Petersburg.
Snowden should just come home and face the music. He'll probably get a pro bono all-star legal team and have 50/50 odds with a jury of his peers. With sufficient lawyering he could probably get away with five years at worst, and then go back to life in America as even more of a hero.
The US government isn't going to kidnap Edward Snowden at any point. He's too high profile and the press would eventually find out. And I don't think Putin will let him leave Russia unless it would hurt the US in some way. If Snowden really wants to leave, he can probably leave. But the Russian government won't make it easy for him. Snowden should just come home and face the music. He'll probably get a pro bono all-s…
The US government isn't going to kidnap Edward Snowden at any point. He's too high profile and the press would eventually find out. And I don't think Putin will let him leave Russia unless it would hurt the US in some way. If Snowden really wants to leave, he can probably leave. But the Russian government won't make it easy for him. Snowden should just come home and face the music. He'll probably get a pro bono all-s…
I've never heard that phrase used but to describe the consequences of a malevolent action. I'm interested to hear a rational explanation for why anyone would think that Snowden's whistleblowing was anything but altruistic. Some may say that the good intentions were misguided, but again - I've never heard the phrase used that way. The man wearing full plate armor, while trying to save a horse caught in a flash flood, ended up facing the music and drowning... doesn't sound right does it?
> ...50/50 odds...
You must have very little regard for your own freedom if you don't see that as being super bad advice to give.
The US government isn't going to kidnap Edward Snowden at any point. He's too high profile and the press would eventually find out. And I don't think Putin will let him leave Russia unless it would hurt the US in some way. If Snowden really wants to leave, he can probably leave. But the Russian government won't make it easy for him. Snowden should just come home and face the music. He'll probably get a pro bono all-s…
For better or for worse, federal prison sentences do not work this way. There are sentencing guidelines, for one thing.
Chelsea Manning is serving a 35-year prison sentence at Fort Leavenworth; prosecutors asked for 60 years. Manning is eligible for parole after serving one-third (I recall) of that sentence.
The US government isn't going to kidnap Edward Snowden at any point. He's too high profile and the press would eventually find out. And I don't think Putin will let him leave Russia unless it would hurt the US in some way. If Snowden really wants to leave, he can probably leave. But the Russian government won't make it easy for him. Snowden should just come home and face the music. He'll probably get a pro bono all-s…
> ...face the music. I've never heard that phrase used but to describe the consequences of a malevolent action. I'm interested to hear a rational explanation for why anyone would think that Snowden's whistleblowing was anything but altruistic. Some may say that the good intentions were misguided, but again - I've never heard the phrase used that way. The man wearing full plate armor, while trying to save a horse caug…
I think the expression has something to do with "Paying the piper" who of course plays music.
I like it.
But I don't think that Snowden should indeed face it.
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One obvious guess would be that it's a dress rehearsal for a possible Nobel peace prize win.
It would also be a powerful statement if he could visit western countries without being arrested.
It would be powerful. It's actualy shameful that Assange and Snowden are so constrained, especially for telling the truth. Ironically, Roman Palanski plead guilty to raping a 13 year old. Later, he was detained in Switzerland but they denied a U.S. extradition request.
It's sad basic travel would send a powerful message, just because that means many assume that these constraints are a foregone conclusion.