I planted about 50 fruit trees and bushes when I moved into my new place. I also converted the electric to 100% renewable. Other than dumping my natural gas heater I'm not sure what's left that I can do to help reduce climate change.
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#42I planted about 50 fruit trees and bushes when I moved into my new place. I also converted the electric to 100% renewable. Other than dumping my natural gas heater I'm not sure what's left that I can do to help reduce climate change.
Stop eating animal-based food. See http://www.cowspiracy.com/ for details.
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#43I planted about 50 fruit trees and bushes when I moved into my new place. I also converted the electric to 100% renewable. Other than dumping my natural gas heater I'm not sure what's left that I can do to help reduce climate change.
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#44When discussing environmental stuff, often activists will say that I "deny climate change". I understand what they mean (that I don't believe the risk of catastrophic anthropogenic climate change is grave enough to demand government intervention) but I still have to point out that we live on a rocky planet in space, where everything including the climate constantly changes. You might be alarmed by a very specific cha…
If you want to wallow in ignorance about how and why "the climate constantly changes" and what that means for our civilization, that is your prerogative. But don't expect to be treated with respect. You're making a pitiful excuse to dismiss trends that threaten trillions of dollars of inherited infrastructure investment that is at risk of being made useless, and that threaten the comfort and safety of billions of peo…
Again I don't agree that the threat indicated by these trends is as grave as you claim. I agree there is strong evidence of a grave threat to this coral ecosystem, and Australian coastal tourism.
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#45There is a whole lot of climate change evidence coming out that is terrifying. At what point does this become so scary that something happens to increase the taxes on fossil fuels so that consumption will go down? Falling renewable prices are not enough, and use-based taxes are the single best way to let individuals make their own decisions about what/how much to use. Carbon credits are a good market-based solution t…
Do you think any of that evidence is terrifying to skeptics? If not, think about why not.
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#46I planted about 50 fruit trees and bushes when I moved into my new place. I also converted the electric to 100% renewable. Other than dumping my natural gas heater I'm not sure what's left that I can do to help reduce climate change.
> Livestock is responsible for 65% of all human-related emissions of nitrous oxide – a greenhouse gas with 296 times the global warming potential of carbon dioxide, and which stays in the atmosphere for 150 years. -“Livestock’s Long Shadow: Environmental Issues and Options.” Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. 2006
[1] From this excellent documentary: http://www.cowspiracy.com/facts/
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#47It's sad how many apps are being written lately by "innovators" and "entrepreneurs" to try and monetize already existing free services that function perfectly. Where are the real innovators and scientists who will tackle the biggest threat humanity has ever faced? Is it only Musk and Cook and Bezos amongst us? We need to stop writing apps to monetize what is already provided to consumers as free services and focus on…
So you're asking people to stop wanting money? The people who want to solve life threatening problems will do so and the people who want to make "trivial" apps to make lots of money will do so. Asking us to just do the former is pointless. Also what about people who aren't entrepreneurs and work at industries like finance, law, and first country problems? Shouldn't they be held under the same scrutiny? What's so spec…
We also want more engineers and other specialists in government - but decades of bureaucratic creep and managerialism on the one hand and neoliberal-driven cost cutting and privatisation on the other have made government, like academia, very unattractive to young smart people.
So it's not a question of people already in finance, law or tech startups switching over to fighting climate change - as you said, they aren't in the same skill set. We need to train the next generation to fight climate change across a number of fronts - climate study, geoengineering, energy, transport, flood defense, food production and so on. And right now all the incentives are pushing that generation in entirely the wrong direction.
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#48I planted about 50 fruit trees and bushes when I moved into my new place. I also converted the electric to 100% renewable. Other than dumping my natural gas heater I'm not sure what's left that I can do to help reduce climate change.
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#49At this point I welcome catastrophe. Nobody listens anyway so a clear message from nature is the only way.
As much as I share your sentiment any catastrophe will almost certainly be dismissed as natural or, my personal favourite "act of God". And the massive loss of innocent species and their worlds is too high a price to pay for that education. Also, it bears noting that these facts have been well understood for some time now. Its simply being ignored because it is inconvenient. Its a great pity that catastrophe is neede…
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
A temperature delta over a millennium is very different than that same delta over a century. Coral reef ecosystems take centuries to establish themselves and mature. They can't simply grow legs and walk a couple miles north every year.
To answer your question: sure, 2000 years from now it's hard to predict total acreage, and it may well be higher (or lower). But there's little uncertainty that on the timescale of centuries, corals will be devastated, and that means really bad things for us and our children, to say nothing of the health of marine ecosystems.
What "really bad things" would you or your children suffer, should all the corals suddenly become sentient and beam into outer space? Just curious.