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Re: The Fourth Facebook Goldrush Just Started

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Post by cableshaft »

nutmeg wrote: post #7

I think he is more on the mark about streaming video than conversational commerce / bots. If you are a regular Facebook user, you can get an idea of where they are headed with the notifications that get greater priority and what is more likely to appear in your feed. I have noticed greater visibility of Events and Live Video streaming. When a friend starts a live stream, I get a notification that shows up on my lock…

I don't know, just by the articles that have been bubbling up on HN lately, the dam seems about to burst on chatbots.

I'm seeing more an more articles about them. Amazon (via Echo/Alexa), Microsoft (via bot framework), and Facebook all seem to think it's about to become big, and I saw an article about China's mobile experience that suggested it's already pretty big over there.

Developers seem to be less interested in it, but businesses seem to be pretty hot on it.

Re: The Fourth Facebook Goldrush Just Started

#42

Post by palakchokshi »

LouisSayers wrote: post #31
palakchokshi wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's how I envision that use case with a bot called JEEVES. ME: Hey have you guys watched Zootopia yet? FRIEND 1: Nah I want to but didn't have the time. I'm free tonight if you want to go. FRIEND 2: Yeah count me in too ME: JEEVES find us a movie theater close to us that's playing Zootopia tonight. JEEVES: There are 3 theaters close to all of you that's playing Zootopia tonight. Theater 1 at (map)Location 1 is pla…

I believe this violates the single responsibility principle... But seriously, do you really want all the Jeeves text showing up in your chat? Isn't that kind of annoying - like showing your friends your working when trying to give them the answer to a math equation?

As it should violate because single responsibility is not applicable to this use case.

JEEVES text showing up in our chat is useful when I ask JEEVES to do something for us. Remember JEEVES does not show up till we ask for "it". Also remember this conversation is about planning to meet up for a movie not discussing some topic or sharing some content or having witty back and forth.

Re: The Fourth Facebook Goldrush Just Started

#43

Post by palakchokshi »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #27
estefan wrote: post #23

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How does the company behind Jeeves make money?

How do OpenTable and Fandango make money?

Exactly! Monetization through partnerships with service providers or affliate programs or service promotion (e.g. a new chinese restaurant opened if you would like to try it)

Re: The Fourth Facebook Goldrush Just Started

#46

Post by hackuser »

LouisSayers wrote: post #29
hackuser wrote: post #15

Unless I misunderstand, conversational commerce bots seem to want to solve the problem of the interface between users' natural language and software's logic (i.e., it's an application of NLP). But I doubt AI will be good enough to do that, and I expect that I'll still have to think about fitting my words to the software's understanding. Why would these bots work better than Siri?

In my mind it's not really solving any 'problem' at all... We have a browser, and we have Google... It's generally pretty easy to buy stuff online, so what's the problem??

I know several people who lack the skills to buy things online. For others it's a chore. Finally, what if by lowering the barriers for customers, you could increase sales 5%? 10%?

Re: The Fourth Facebook Goldrush Just Started

#47

Post by rajacombinator »

cableshaft wrote: post #41
nutmeg wrote: post #7

I think he is more on the mark about streaming video than conversational commerce / bots. If you are a regular Facebook user, you can get an idea of where they are headed with the notifications that get greater priority and what is more likely to appear in your feed. I have noticed greater visibility of Events and Live Video streaming. When a friend starts a live stream, I get a notification that shows up on my lock…

I don't know, just by the articles that have been bubbling up on HN lately, the dam seems about to burst on chatbots. I'm seeing more an more articles about them. Amazon (via Echo/Alexa), Microsoft (via bot framework), and Facebook all seem to think it's about to become big, and I saw an article about China's mobile experience that suggested it's already pretty big over there. Developers seem to be less interested in…

Just the current in vogue snake oil to sell to khaki wearers. Devs aren't interested because they know they don't work.

Re: The Fourth Facebook Goldrush Just Started

#48

Post by LouisSayers »

hackuser wrote: post #46
LouisSayers wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my mind it's not really solving any 'problem' at all... We have a browser, and we have Google... It's generally pretty easy to buy stuff online, so what's the problem??

I know several people who lack the skills to buy things online. For others it's a chore. Finally, what if by lowering the barriers for customers, you could increase sales 5%? 10%?

Sure, it *might increase conversions - I'd hope that FB have tested this assumption... Will be interesting to see how this turns out

Re: The Fourth Facebook Goldrush Just Started

#49

Post by LouisSayers »

palakchokshi wrote: post #42
LouisSayers wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe this violates the single responsibility principle... But seriously, do you really want all the Jeeves text showing up in your chat? Isn't that kind of annoying - like showing your friends your working when trying to give them the answer to a math equation?

As it should violate because single responsibility is not applicable to this use case. JEEVES text showing up in our chat is useful when I ask JEEVES to do something for us. Remember JEEVES does not show up till we ask for "it". Also remember this conversation is about planning to meet up for a movie not discussing some topic or sharing some content or having witty back and forth.

My point isn't whether it could be useful, but that it might be more annoying to have that in a chat conversation...

I was half joking about the single responsibility thing - I do kind of think though that chat should be for chat, and not for searching for movie timetables.

Re: The Fourth Facebook Goldrush Just Started

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Post by cylinder »

andrewfromx wrote: post #16
cylinder wrote: post #10

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Can someone provide a narrower indication of where that part occurs?

it's the "Scalable Distribution Model" part of the talk https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/12... 15:56 but then there's more at end

Thank you
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