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Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Post by DarkLinkXXXX »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #38
phonyphonecall wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recall some composers notes such as 'with great vigor' or 'like raindrops' on sheet music. Midi step sequences would have a hard time representing the "emotion" some composers are looking for.

> Midi step sequences would have a hard time representing the "emotion" some composers are looking for. They all allow different amounts of precision and interpretation of the performance. Staff notation is open to interpretation on the performance level. MIDI is an exact recording (or programming) of a performance. With staff notation you can mark eighth notes and say "staccato, lag behind the beat", and there's an…

I don't think that's quite right. Different midi sequencers will play in a different way, based on the decisions of the midi sequencers author.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Post by Double_Cast »

fsloth wrote: post #7
hanoz wrote: post #3

Well that's opened up a fascinating new world to me. Is there a name for that regular logarithmic by linear music notation in the first image? I suddenly feel like a whole lifetime of musical enjoyment has been denied to me by the utterly utterly ridiculous staff notation system.

"the utterly utterly ridiculous staff notation system" I think you mean "dense and efficient".

I think you're both right. It's got some seemingly arbitrary quirks. But at the end of the day, it compresses information really well.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Post by squeaky-clean »

midgetjones wrote: post #31
6stringmerc wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but Guitar Tab is one of the great equalizers of the internet - proper notation has typically cost money to access a copy, whereas Tab could spread in .txt format, small sizes, etc. Sure, they could be off or need the song to play along with, but that's the trade-off. Lastly, though it's a personal opinion, Guitar and "proper notation" are really only needed in the same sentence when playing Classical/Orches…

I agree, I just feel like it ends up as a crutch for a lot of musicians. For example, it isn't very specific in terms of rhythm so you get a lot of beginners who see that part of music as loose or unimportant. But of course, up to a point, lowering barriers is always a good thing for beginners.

Depending on the style of tablature used, you can convey rhythm, and more. I'd say it can actually get more specific than staff notation when you allow for guitar specific notation, like all the different types of legato capable, harmonics, and specifying which string to play a note one (it makes a subtle difference).

Here's a screenshot I took of a random song in TuxGuitar (a GNU licensed tablature editor/viewer). You can see the rhythm fairly clearly, as well as the difference between pull-offs and slides.

http://i.imgur.com/bg9MitN.png

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Post by baldfat »

arnklint wrote: post #20

Might be relevant to the subject: Sonic Pi Daft Punk sample - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cydH_JAgSfg

Sonic Pi is another on of the new Live Music Programming Languages. Sonic Pi has a nicer GUI presently.

Right now it is the early stages of these kind of musical tools for live music coding. I really look forward to the near future for these new tools. I know that we have had programming for music for decades but this is a different genre at least to me.

Here is a video of Overture going over live coding from 3 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imoWGsipe4k&nohtml5=False

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Post by recursive »

> The key is F major.

Where is this coming from? It's pretty clearly G minor to me. The bass is playing G. The main phrase starts and ends on a G.

> This 1.334 is a ratio of adding 5 semitones in hertz. This should sound like this.

This harmonic overtone kills it for me. I know there are some overtones in the original, but not like this. 5 semi-tones is an interval of a perfect fourth. I think maybe a perfect fifth would work (7 semi-tones) but this overtone pretty much destroys it for me.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Post by nibnib »

hanoz wrote: post #3

Well that's opened up a fascinating new world to me. Is there a name for that regular logarithmic by linear music notation in the first image? I suddenly feel like a whole lifetime of musical enjoyment has been denied to me by the utterly utterly ridiculous staff notation system.

It's called a piano roll, after the 19th century player piano systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_roll

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Post by dep_b »

The original seems to have been made by creating a feedback loop between one of the outputs and the filter input of an analog synthesizer. The examples I've seen were done on a Yamaha CS-15 but a lot of monophonic old analogs allow you to do that, like a MiniMoog. However the filters on a CS-15 are quite unique, don't think you can even do this exact patch on an MS-20.

https://youtu.be/W4PEAKNtbVw?t=184

A good explanation how it works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdN43xfwV2U

Slightly better played

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Post by Bud »

hanoz wrote: post #3

Well that's opened up a fascinating new world to me. Is there a name for that regular logarithmic by linear music notation in the first image? I suddenly feel like a whole lifetime of musical enjoyment has been denied to me by the utterly utterly ridiculous staff notation system.

In other words, you haven't yet spent the time learning to read music, so you'd rather trash the system that evolved over several centuries and pretend that it's ridiculous.

Nothing has been "denied to you". You just haven't spent the time it takes to learn. Have foreign languages been "denied to you", too?

What, precisely, is ridiculous about music notation? It represents time, on the x axis, and pitch, on the y axis (on a basic level). Seems reasonably logical, to me.

Re: Recreating Daft Punk's Da Funk with Overtone and Leipzig

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Post by pjagielski »

recursive wrote: post #45

> The key is F major. Where is this coming from? It's pretty clearly G minor to me. The bass is playing G. The main phrase starts and ends on a G. > This 1.334 is a ratio of adding 5 semitones in hertz. This should sound like this. This harmonic overtone kills it for me. I know there are some overtones in the original, but not like this. 5 semi-tones is an interval of a perfect fourth. I think maybe a perfect fifth w…

Hi, post author here. Thanks for pointing out!

I know it's wrong and working on these improvements:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/4dl454/recreating_...

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