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Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#42
post #35

I'm glad there's something. Chrome simply sucks[1]. Firefox is complicated[1], and even if you invest time, there are too many things wrong[1]. There's not much else (as in different). I tried Vivaldi many times over the last year, and my conclusion is that I find it unusably slow. They take direction I like, but they chose technology that is bad (but cheap). Maybe it will get better, I surely hope so. Another nitpic…

Just curious - for you, personally, what makes Firefox complicated? Just want to know people's reasons about what makes software look complicated.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#44
post #35

I'm glad there's something. Chrome simply sucks[1]. Firefox is complicated[1], and even if you invest time, there are too many things wrong[1]. There's not much else (as in different). I tried Vivaldi many times over the last year, and my conclusion is that I find it unusably slow. They take direction I like, but they chose technology that is bad (but cheap). Maybe it will get better, I surely hope so. Another nitpic…

Also try Otter Browser ( http://www.otter-browser.org/ ). It aims to replicate the feature set of old Opera, with the same idea of being usable out of the box, and it doesn't use as slow a technology as Vivaldi. It still is lacking some important stuff (such as passwords manager) but it's actually progressing at a very good pace considering it's practically a single-person FOSS project.

On the other hand it's also Webkit-based at the moment, because everything seems to be... the architecture is multi-engine though.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#45
Its main selling point is supposed to be customizability, but I can't even customize predefined mouse gestures :) And there are no mouse gestures allowing to navigate between tabs (only back and forth in history, which is kind of pointless to me as that's already covered by mouse buttons). I also can't disable that annoying gap between the tab bar and the top edge of the screen...

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#46
If you want to help me use the web, don't just build a browser. Build a web user's toolkit that helps me customise my workflow and experience with the various sites and their services. It's an integrated web, but where are the "browsers" that acknowledge this reality and orchestrate instead of simply providing a read-only experience. Sure, Safari has made a start on iOS with plugins, but it should go much further.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#47
post #6
post #4

I'm yet to understand the hype. Perhaps there are users out there to whom it is appealing, but personally I don't see the need for the features they bring out like notes in the browser or stacking tabs next to one another. These are things I can already do using standalone applications or a window manager. I would rather a browser be simple and most importantly stable and fast.

There is no need to "understand the hype", as a) there is none and b) it mostly comes down to personal preferences. When you're happy with your current workflow using other tools - that's totally fine, good for you. But, you know, there are people out there who are really looking forward to an alternative Browser-UI that 1) is very fast, 2) has a lot of configuration/features the others lack and 3) does not require y…

> 2) has a lot of configuration/features the others lack

Such as? I find it less customizable than Firefox or Chrome

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#48

I'd definitely want a new browser, but one which promises it won't slow down like hell after a few days of use until I open a 100 tabs. The stackable tabs features is nice, but I'd prefer someone creates a Firefox extension to do the same.

Just installed Vivaldi to try anyway. Slow out of the box - plain window interaction feels delayed and it's a fresh install! Will try after a few releases.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#49
post #14

I'd be curious to see a comparison of this with the "big 3" (Chrome, Firefox, IE). And playing devil's advocate, why bother to make yet another browser?

I don't really have fragmentation concerns because it's basically Chrome with an Opera-like front end. I did a benchmark comparison and they were roughly equal, with Vivaldi winning some and Chrome winning some. I'm liking it so far. If you aren't crazy about Chrome's UI, it's worth a shot. Hope to see more privacy features, but right now the settings are the same as in Chrome.

Only unlike Chrome, Opera or Firefox, it doesn't support tearing tabs off the window (to spawn a new window)

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#50
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say it's a toolbox, it's just another browser with some more sugar strapped to it out of the box. Coming back to your smartphone analogy, it's just another smartphone with more stock apps that many users don't want at all.

You mean like pre-built toolboxes have some tools many people don't really want? Good thing people can choose the toolboxes they find the most ideal, even if it contains only a hammer and a duct type and a lot of empty space, isn't it? :) When Opera switched from Presto to Chromium, it was about as fast, but it was much lighter. Yet, almost every Opera fan/"customer" at the time was pretty mad. It was not because the…

If I recall correctly, Opera dropped even bookmarks at that point.
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