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Re: Schools Out, Forever

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School's Out, Forever . "School is out" contracts to "School's out", with an apostrophe to indicate the contraction. I could not bring myself to read an article about education being pointless that has a grammatical mistake in the title, no less. If you make that mistake while slagging on education, I simply cannot give your opinions any weight.

Your response illustrates an all too common failure of formal education: holding formalities in greater regard than practical matters. Language is usage is language. Not only was clarity not hurt, the point of the title I took away was a reference to the Alice Cooper song lyric, which as spoken (sung) language, contains no apostrophe.

the point of the title I took away was a reference to the Alice Cooper song lyric, which as spoken (sung) language, contains no apostrophe.

The title of the Alice Cooper song absolutely contains an apostrophe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schools_Out_(song)

Re: Schools Out, Forever

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post #10

I went to a school that taught me, among other things, how to use apostrophes, how to make web sites with readable text, how to avoid phrases like "kitchen of education", and how to make a poll that shows results when I vote instead of thanking me for voting. If you're some sort of mindless soulless fuck who equates everything in life to "will this help me get a job?", then skip school. It won't teach you what you wa…

This is the type of post that is contributing to the decline of HN. It's mean spirited and inflamatory, veiled by a thin layer of actual argument. You critize the author for a lack of credentials, yet claim that no one knows better than you how to create a brand online? Let's see your credentials then, because apparently you are God's gift to earth. Quite frankly no one had the credentials to write a post like yours.…

The worst part is the novelty name.

Re: Schools Out, Forever

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I homeschooled my kids. Articles like this are fairly popular on homeschool lists. My two favorite examples of successful people without college degrees are Bill Gates and Madonna. You clearly don't need a degree to have financial and career success. However, I have always told my sons that because they are homeschooled, their best shot at career success is to start their own business. If you want/need to work for The Man, a degree not only helps but can be essential (unless you are content being stuck in some entry level job for all eternity). Also, there are certain careers that require a formal education (doctor, college professor, etc). So it depends in part on what you want to do with your life.

Re: Schools Out, Forever

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post #27

You know what you can do as a university student in a technical discipline which can't really be done for free searching the internet? Participate in real research, guided and mentored by real-life scientists. Do lab-based classes. Ask questions of your professors. Have deep conversations with your fellow students and with your lecturers during office hours. Yeah, if you only want to try to absorb the material in a t…

What I did as an CS Undergraduate is teach CS classes to other undergraduates.

When I first did it as a sophomore I got credit for developing the labwork & teaching it for 10 weeks, and got paid as a TA to grade what I assigned. My ~25 students were my classmates in the other sections of the full-time course.

My Junior year I got credit for teaching a 10-week FPGA tutorial to a group of 5 students that were doing it as the 'project' portion of their CS course. My Senior year I informally helped my professor/coworker develop the robotics portion of a non-CS class I was taking, and tutored the other students.

Re: Schools Out, Forever

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post #14

Thank's Avand, your article is really hip and all. I'd really like to agree with it, and then go about back behind the school yard and smoke a cigarette and tell The Man go to hell. However, I really can't do that. Let's start with your high school experience. Going to a prep school in Boston means you (most likely, not assuredly) come from a privileged background. I went to a high school prep school too, and like yo…

> Thank's Avand, your article is really hip and all. I'd really like to agree with it, and then go about back behind the school yard and smoke a cigarette and tell The Man go to hell. I almost didn't read the post because you made it sound like mindless rebellion. The tone of discussion was a bit higher than you made it out to be. > Here's what it really comes down to- you seem to be doing well marching to your own s…

> In all seriousness - can you cut this out? You've got valid and good points, but adding snark/sarcasm doesn't help them.

No sarcasm intended, he seems pretty happy with how he's done things. :-)

Re: Schools Out, Forever

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post #45
post #27

You know what you can do as a university student in a technical discipline which can't really be done for free searching the internet? Participate in real research, guided and mentored by real-life scientists. Do lab-based classes. Ask questions of your professors. Have deep conversations with your fellow students and with your lecturers during office hours. Yeah, if you only want to try to absorb the material in a t…

What I did as an CS Undergraduate is teach CS classes to other undergraduates. When I first did it as a sophomore I got credit for developing the labwork & teaching it for 10 weeks, and got paid as a TA to grade what I assigned. My ~25 students were my classmates in the other sections of the full-time course. My Junior year I got credit for teaching a 10-week FPGA tutorial to a group of 5 students that were doing it…

^copy and pasted from resume

Re: Schools Out, Forever

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post #42
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your response illustrates an all too common failure of formal education: holding formalities in greater regard than practical matters. Language is usage is language. Not only was clarity not hurt, the point of the title I took away was a reference to the Alice Cooper song lyric, which as spoken (sung) language, contains no apostrophe.

the point of the title I took away was a reference to the Alice Cooper song lyric, which as spoken (sung) language, contains no apostrophe. The title of the Alice Cooper song absolutely contains an apostrophe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schools_Out_(song)

.. and yet your link doesnt [sic].

Re: Schools Out, Forever

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post #48
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the point of the title I took away was a reference to the Alice Cooper song lyric, which as spoken (sung) language, contains no apostrophe. The title of the Alice Cooper song absolutely contains an apostrophe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schools_Out_(song)

.. and yet your link doesnt [sic].

That is apparently due to a HN bug which strips single quotes from links. The WP article has an apostrophe in the title; the HN-modified link loses the apostrophe, and is broken.

Re: Schools Out, Forever

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post #49
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.. and yet your link doesnt [sic].

That is apparently due to a HN bug which strips single quotes from links. The WP article has an apostrophe in the title; the HN-modified link loses the apostrophe, and is broken.

A broken link seems, to me, to be far more jarring than omitting the apostrophe entirely.

Incidentally, I doubt it's a bug in HN, merely a lack of feature:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School%27s_Out_%28song%29

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