And suddenly I realize that AI is going to be approached with the same fervour as nuclear weapons, the only difference is that you don't need to be able to mine uranium and blow stuff up. No amount of ethical hand-wringing is going to prevent this (for better or (probably) for worse).
South Korea announces $860M AI fund after AlphaGo 'shock'
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#42its not about governments anymore, private companies rule this game and will keep on the lead for some time. We need to understand companies are the new governments.
Seconded. The companies have a larger GDP than most countries. So saying that it's the South Korean goverment is a bit of a misnomer. It's likely to be Samsung or someone like that.
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#43As a South Korean who experienced/heard about many government-backed researches, I strongly feel that this will go nowhere. Most of the time, there's always some bribery involved and project never finishes or come even close to that of the tech companies in US. The government then realizes it can't be done even with more money and puts the money elsewhere just to repeat the same thing. The examples that I can think o…
Fortunately. The far worse scenario would be if the first (and last) implementer of AGI is a government, no matter which government, foolish enough to attempt to mandate that the AGI maintain any of that government's rules, goals, or structures, rather than just getting its value function right.
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#44As a South Korean who experienced/heard about many government-backed researches, I strongly feel that this will go nowhere. Most of the time, there's always some bribery involved and project never finishes or come even close to that of the tech companies in US. The government then realizes it can't be done even with more money and puts the money elsewhere just to repeat the same thing. The examples that I can think o…
That is true about ALL governments my friend. Obama just threw few billions at self driving cars which will not go anywhere.
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#45Oh My, The last time south korea's govt wanted to fuk some shit up. they destroyed the British shipping industry and took over the global electronics industry. Silicon Valley's VC money is nothing compared to what a nation state can achieve.
South Korea's government did not do much I think it was the private companies that did it when government let them do it? Giving credit to government is little too much.
Re: South Korea announces $860M AI fund after AlphaGo 'shock'
#46Oh My, The last time south korea's govt wanted to fuk some shit up. they destroyed the British shipping industry and took over the global electronics industry. Silicon Valley's VC money is nothing compared to what a nation state can achieve.
I disagree that South Korean shipbuilding industry destroyed British shipbuilding industry. It was more Japan that started the trend.
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#47Did it really take AlphaGo to cement that Google are ahead of at least anyone who publishes right now?
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#48As a South Korean who experienced/heard about many government-backed researches, I strongly feel that this will go nowhere. Most of the time, there's always some bribery involved and project never finishes or come even close to that of the tech companies in US. The government then realizes it can't be done even with more money and puts the money elsewhere just to repeat the same thing. The examples that I can think o…
To paraphrase Obi-Wan: I feel a great disturbance in the industry...it is as if a million startups cried out in supplication, and were suddenly funded. Pure injections of capital may work for basic needs in Africa, but tend to flounder in creative endeavors. From what I've seen, access to resources - a strong entrepreneurial community, top researchers, good hardware, and a flexible and customer-rich business environm…
The Apollo program would be a good counter example.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're spending less than a billion. Google/Alphabet is surely spending more than that.
Really things might get scary when the DOD decides to direct some of its monstrous military budget at AI (which I'm sure its already doing).
In addition to DARPA there's IARPA, which has the MICrONS project:
http://www.iarpa.gov/index.php/research-programs/microns
Re: South Korea announces $860M AI fund after AlphaGo 'shock'
#50As a South Korean who experienced/heard about many government-backed researches, I strongly feel that this will go nowhere. Most of the time, there's always some bribery involved and project never finishes or come even close to that of the tech companies in US. The government then realizes it can't be done even with more money and puts the money elsewhere just to repeat the same thing. The examples that I can think o…
That reminds me of what an engineer said about Quaero[0], a Franco-German attempt to create a competitor to Google search: > Going head-to-head with Google with a project involving well-funded, energetic entrepreneurs would be foolish. Attempting the same with a multigovernment collaboration is beyond description.[1] 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaero 1: http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/loser-whats-the-…
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