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Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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post #31

Just posted this to the other discussion, but it bears just the same. This is just going to be a collection of anecdotes from people who self-select to report because they feel good about where they're at, or because they feel righteously justified in complaining about their situation. Self-selection ruins the data. The responses have to be random to be useful. And the silly thing is that most people who are involved…

It's not actually that bad. First, even in your version, the "feel goods" (high salaries) and the "complainers" (low salaries) would cancel each other out, and (assuming equal numbers of them) will give us a usable median value. But in the real world is more complicated than "self-selection" in the basic mode you describe. Who might "feel good" and who might feel "justified in complaining" will not be so much based o…

(which we can assume are evenly distributed among salaries).

Why would you assume that? To me it seems the opposite, that they wouldn't be evenly distributed.

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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post #15

Ha! I've been working on something similar, but as with all of my side projects, its probably never going to get finished. Good job on getting it out there. I'm sure HN will rip it to shreds, because they are good at that, but kudos to getting something out there!

thanks!

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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post #6

There is already a ton of websites to check salaries. Glassdoor is the most famous one and I made http://data.jobsintech.io last year.

The one you made seems completely focused on foreign workers. What am I missing? At first glance it does not appear to be of any relevance to me. Also, and this is a usability complaint, but when I'm searching for companies all of the search results are coming up in all lowercase. This is not a good user experience. You should style the companies using the same case that they themselves do. The use of "llc" is partic…

the site does not have search so maybe you are referring to a different one?

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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post #6

There is already a ton of websites to check salaries. Glassdoor is the most famous one and I made http://data.jobsintech.io last year.

The one you made seems completely focused on foreign workers. What am I missing? At first glance it does not appear to be of any relevance to me. Also, and this is a usability complaint, but when I'm searching for companies all of the search results are coming up in all lowercase. This is not a good user experience. You should style the companies using the same case that they themselves do. The use of "llc" is partic…

Legal foreign workers are required by law to have the same salary than U.S. workers so it's relevant.

  >I'm searching for companies all of the search results are coming up in all lowercase. This is not a good user experience. You should style the companies using the same case that they themselves do.
The data come from government records and it's all in uppercase.

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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post #25

Take aside legal aspects, why wouldn't any employee share their salary with their peers? All the secrecy just create noise, how could transparency be bad? I only see some incentive from the company's pov, you can position yourself somewhat better at bargaining salaries, when your employee has no access to the same data to debate, thus lowering costs a few percents. What am I missing?

If you on the high end of the pay scale, then sharing your information can hurt you. When it comes time to negotiate a raise, the company could be reluctant to give you a raise knowing that your peers will also expect a similar raise. If you keep your salary a secret, when it comes time to ask for even more money, then the company could be more likely to offer it since it will not have repercussions across the whole…

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Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The one you made seems completely focused on foreign workers. What am I missing? At first glance it does not appear to be of any relevance to me. Also, and this is a usability complaint, but when I'm searching for companies all of the search results are coming up in all lowercase. This is not a good user experience. You should style the companies using the same case that they themselves do. The use of "llc" is partic…

the site does not have search so maybe you are referring to a different one?

There's a search bar in the header in the upper right corner on every single page ...

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The one you made seems completely focused on foreign workers. What am I missing? At first glance it does not appear to be of any relevance to me. Also, and this is a usability complaint, but when I'm searching for companies all of the search results are coming up in all lowercase. This is not a good user experience. You should style the companies using the same case that they themselves do. The use of "llc" is partic…

Legal foreign workers are required by law to have the same salary than U.S. workers so it's relevant. >I'm searching for companies all of the search results are coming up in all lowercase. This is not a good user experience. You should style the companies using the same case that they themselves do. The data come from government records and it's all in uppercase.

And murders are illegal by law, so they never happen. There's entire companies whose raison d'etre is to provide foreign IT labor at cheaper prices. And they aren't held accountable for it, unlike murders; those at least are generally followed up on. Here's a source: http://www.infoworld.com/article/3004501/h1b/proof-that-h-1b...

By the way, it'd be worth spending some time sanitizing your data so that it displays correctly. It sucks that the data comes in an annoying format, but it would still be way more usable if it were fixed, certainly at least the top several hundred companies. It is interesting data though -- I'm looking up some data on my previous job, and all of the foreign workers made significantly less than me. I didn't even realize that this data was available by law, so nice job on putting it online in a browsable format.

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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Okay, before you all start adding your data there, consider the fact that it's all made public.

In the UK, post codes are usually very specific (sometimes to a single building) and I'm seeing someone from Colindale that has put in their entire postcode alongside their salary, this would be very easy to deanonimise by doing a reverse lookup on census data and then checking the job titles of the full names you'd get for software professionals (for instance, via Linkedin or Facebook).

In that specific example, I was able to find the social profiles of the person who added their salary with just a couple searches in the UK open register; ironically, a data engineer.

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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post #21

Cool to have another one in case glassdoor disappears or something.. Is the benefit here that this would show a list of salaries whereas glassdoor shows averages? I haven't used glassdoor in awhile but I sort of recall that it checks your domain. Does this do that too?

What do you mean by "it checks your domain"? Does it change information displayed based on where you connect from?

Sorry, email domain. If I work at Bugaboo then verify my email is rob@bugaboo.com before allowing me to submit a salary for Bugaboo

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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Just posted this to the other discussion, but it bears just the same. This is just going to be a collection of anecdotes from people who self-select to report because they feel good about where they're at, or because they feel righteously justified in complaining about their situation. Self-selection ruins the data. The responses have to be random to be useful. And the silly thing is that most people who are involved…

My company had a similar spreadsheet internally that was self-selected and it was incredibly useful. I found that I had come in at the low range for my pay band and got a $10K raise in the next annual salary review. It's anonymous. I'm not sure why you think it'd be so susceptible to bragging or complaining. A lot of people, me included, are data nerds, and will contribute to the dataset regardless of our personal si…

I've pointed out some huge issues with the anonimity of this site in another comment.

But apart from that, if a site has no privacy policy, you should have no expectation of privacy or anonimity. If they added an advertising tracking tag they could easily match the data you provide to your real name, your hobbies, your online shopping habits, your marital status...

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