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Hulk Hogan awarded payout over Gawker sex tapes

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Re: Hulk Hogan awarded payout over Gawker sex tapes

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Post by motoford »

minimaxir wrote: post #4

Before anyone goes on a "Gawker is a terrible site, they deserve it" tangent, keep in mind that this does set precedent for other individuals to sue other media companies for massive amounts of money, which could be another problem for an already-struggling ecosystem. (Although in fairness, this incident is particularly egregious, especially as they disobeyed a judge's order to take down the video)

Hopefully this sets a precedent that eventually shuts down the revenge porn sites.

Re: Hulk Hogan awarded payout over Gawker sex tapes

#44

Post by newjersey »

Trisell wrote: post #37

I agree that we live in a country With a constitution that gives us free speech, but while we have the right to say something, that doesn't relieve us of the responsibility of what we say. Gawker had every right to post this video, they also now have the full responsibility for the consequences. This case has established that you can still post sex tapes, but you now run the very real risk of loosing a lot in doing t…

So obviously the next step is to form a shell company, put a sucker with no money in charge of it, incorporate that off shore, and host anything shady with them, not cooperate or collaborate with them wink wink (just like political candidates do not coordinate with superpacs wink wink).

Everyone on the Internet from ACLU and EFF will rightly defend the right to link. Well, the sleazy tabloids will continue doing what they do.

This is no win for privacy because it only protects those who are willing to go to court over this. Gawker is scum (particularly for doxxing people) but Hulk Hogan is no saint either.

Edit: grammar and spelling

Re: Hulk Hogan awarded payout over Gawker sex tapes

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Post by CM30 »

motoford wrote: post #42
minimaxir wrote: post #4

Before anyone goes on a "Gawker is a terrible site, they deserve it" tangent, keep in mind that this does set precedent for other individuals to sue other media companies for massive amounts of money, which could be another problem for an already-struggling ecosystem. (Although in fairness, this incident is particularly egregious, especially as they disobeyed a judge's order to take down the video)

Hopefully this sets a precedent that eventually shuts down the revenge porn sites.

Haven't we already had court cases against people running those sites? The wiki page for the topic already lists three or four US cases where the people running said sites have been prosecuted or sent to prison.

We didn't need this court case to get a precedent for that.

Re: Hulk Hogan awarded payout over Gawker sex tapes

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Post by skuhn »

Putting aside the matter of case itself, I'm getting a lot of schadenfreude out of watching Gawker fail to hold itself to the same standards it keeps for everyone else.

As of now, two plus hours after TechCrunch [1], BBC [2], Recode [3], CNN [4], Buzzfeed [5], HN [6], Ars Technica [7], Wired [8], Slate [9] and countless other sites have all published articles about the verdict, Gawker's site is silent on the topic. And this comes after they've done daily articles throughout the trial, but now the pill is apparently too bitter to swallow.

I don't think that being first is always best, but Gawker sure seemed to think so up until now. Apparently reveling in public about their own misfortune is finally the bridge too far.

[1] http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/18/jury-awards-hulk-hogan-115m...

[2] http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35849140

[3] http://recode.net/2016/03/18/florida-jury-hands-hulk-hogan-a...

[4] http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/media/hulk-hogan-gawker-jury...

[5] http://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/hulk-hogan-ga...

[6] right here!

[7] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/115-million-verdi...

[8] http://www.wired.com/2016/03/jury-awards-hulk-hogan-115-mill...

[9] http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/18/jury_award...

Re: Hulk Hogan awarded payout over Gawker sex tapes

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Post by jewbacca »

danso wrote: post #35

I've long stopped reading Gawker for serious news or even entertainment...but I'm going to miss it as it is possibly the only independent online media outlet that actually made a profit. BuzzFeed might make a profit but NBC(Comcast) owns $200M of it [1]. Vox, too, got $200M from NBC [2]. Vice, as far as anyone can tell, is not near profitability (it just started its own TV channel), and has $400M from Disney [3]...an…

re Grantland:

I'm not sure if this news has circulated widely beyond people who listen to his podcast[0], but Bill Simmons (founder of Grantland, creator of '30 for 30'; fired by ESPN/Disney last year after criticizing Roger Goodell) has hired the core of Grantland's former writers, editors and staff, to start 'The Ringer':

http://theringer.com

Currently half-launched as an email newsletter, presumably while the infrastructure for a proper website is being developed.

If Deadspin does indeed shut down after this (... though I think the people in this discussion are taking this as far more of a given than it is), then there will be a massive hole in this side of independent sports media, that The Ringer would be a top contender for filling.

--

[0] http://thebillsimmonspodcast.tumblr.com/tagged/Bill-Simmons

Re: Hulk Hogan awarded payout over Gawker sex tapes

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Post by jevinskie »

Trisell wrote: post #37

I agree that we live in a country With a constitution that gives us free speech, but while we have the right to say something, that doesn't relieve us of the responsibility of what we say. Gawker had every right to post this video, they also now have the full responsibility for the consequences. This case has established that you can still post sex tapes, but you now run the very real risk of loosing a lot in doing t…

Are rights that you have to pay a lot of money for really rights? See poll taxes. I'm not arguing either way about the current case in question.

Re: Hulk Hogan awarded payout over Gawker sex tapes

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Post by [deleted] »

fweespee_ch wrote: post #33
hartpuff wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nonconsensual porn Can't you find a better term? This makes it sound like a rape video.

Suggestions? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_porn > The term is also often misused to describe non 'revenge' scenarios, including nonconsensual pornography distributed by hackers or by individuals seeking profit or notoriety I'm not the only one that uses it that way :/

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