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Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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When there is a device like this that I can walk into a store and play with before buying as well as have access to thousands of quality applications that make my life easier or more fun then I'll consider it a competitor to the iPad. Until then this is nothing more then a cool gadget that likely won't see the light of day inside any major retailer. The iPad is currently the only "tablet" that will ever see mass cons…

>The app store is unlike anything else out there, If you run Ubuntu on the Adam, I'm pretty sure the internet w/o limitations > the app store.

W/o limitations is cool if you are a hacker.

For everyone else it's just annoying. Making boundaries is exactly what makes your product a mass market consumer product.

95% of users of technology need limitations so they can't fuck things up.

Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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>The app store is unlike anything else out there, If you run Ubuntu on the Adam, I'm pretty sure the internet w/o limitations > the app store.

It's always been amazing to me that Apple has managed to convince a sizable number of otherwise intelligent people that a walled garden, tightly controlled by an overbearing schoolmarm, is preferable to the Internet and a totally free market. The app store is a huge bug, not a feature. It's just plain bad for developers (because Apple owns yours customers and the pipeline to those customers, and can cut you off witho…

Easy wins.

As much as I love downloading and building everything from source... actually, no, I hate that. Apple built that first easy app install experience, and that's the reason people love it, not because of some ideological preference.

Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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>The app store is unlike anything else out there, If you run Ubuntu on the Adam, I'm pretty sure the internet w/o limitations > the app store.

It's always been amazing to me that Apple has managed to convince a sizable number of otherwise intelligent people that a walled garden, tightly controlled by an overbearing schoolmarm, is preferable to the Internet and a totally free market. The app store is a huge bug, not a feature. It's just plain bad for developers (because Apple owns yours customers and the pipeline to those customers, and can cut you off witho…

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Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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The touching might make the interface more humane Bingo. This is exactly it. it makes things more humane. Easier. You don't have to worry about where you saved that file to. There's no accidentally deleting a folder that had an important document among a dozens of useless files. You don't need to use a clunky device to click on something. You use your finger and you push the screen. Which a lot of people do anyway, t…

Such an interface is not a major boon, or it would have been implemented many years ago. Touch screens are not a new technology, they've been around for more than twenty years. They may be becoming more popular right now, and Apple may be exploiting that with the iPad/iPhone, but it by no means deserves a comparison with such revolutions as the cell phone or automobile.

There is a huge gap between existing technology and useable technology. Apple may be exploiting that? Who did use capacitive multitouch before Apple?

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> Also this tablet might also run Ubuntu or ChromeOS. Which means that the OS won't be nearly as integrated with the hardware as it is on the iPad. Or that the tablet's UI won't be designed specifically for the device it is on. Or apps that it will run won't be designed specifically for the device and instead will be generic, to the lowest common denominator (which, most of the time, will be a phone, not a tablet). P…

Personally, I prefer a platform, where I won't potentially run into an application designed for a device with hardware that I don't have. I would prefer a device that is consistent. It doesn't have to do everything under the the sun. It just has to do what it claims to be able to do, well. By contrast a gigantic portion of applications for the iPad will be designed to be run on a phone... the iPhone Can't really talk…

Without even getting into the multiple generations of iPhones, each with different processors and hardware capabilities, the iPod Touches that don't have cameras or the fact that applications written for the iPhone/iPod Touch will run on the iPad, I'll just point out that the 3G iPad will have GPS and the WiFi iPad won't.

So what where you saying about not wanting a platform with applications designed for a device with hardware you don't have?

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The swivel camera is a good idea. It's tough to really love the thing without more information. Oh, I love the comparison in sunlight to a macbook ... whose brightness was clearly turned down quite a bit.

Why do you think the brightness was turned down? Have you ever tried to use a macbook in bright sunlight? It's unreadable. In fact I was surprised by how clear the macbook screen was so I'd guess they had the brightness jacked right up.

Cameras don't always accurately reflect what the human eye would see but an LCD backlight simply can't compete with bright sunlight. The Pixel Qi is effectively acting as a mirror for that light.

edit: this video from last June has a good comparison with the kindle and a transflective screen right at the start and a standard LCD touchscreen at 5:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oawX3wenxNc

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They are drastic changes from what most users are accustomed to, which is Windows, and I'm sure there will be some changes for the platform in the case of at least Ubuntu. iPad is not shaping up to be a "drastic change from ... how a computer is currently used". It's shaping up to be a computer you use on your couch that's controlled via touch screen instead of keyboard and mouse. Otherwise, it's basically the same c…

Otherwise, it's basically the same concept ... In that case, cell phones aren't a new concept. Its the same as talking to my neighbor, only through this speaker... Or maybe a car isn't a novel concept. It is, after all, the same as walking somewhere. Only slower. Or even a book. Its just another representation of stories that have been told verbally for thousands of years, after all. Sharing functional similarities i…

> Or maybe a car isn't a novel concept. It is, after all, the same as walking somewhere. Only slower.

I think this is a case of Driving, you're doing it wrong ;)

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It's always been amazing to me that Apple has managed to convince a sizable number of otherwise intelligent people that a walled garden, tightly controlled by an overbearing schoolmarm, is preferable to the Internet and a totally free market. The app store is a huge bug, not a feature. It's just plain bad for developers (because Apple owns yours customers and the pipeline to those customers, and can cut you off witho…

Easy wins. As much as I love downloading and building everything from source... actually, no, I hate that. Apple built that first easy app install experience, and that's the reason people love it, not because of some ideological preference.

"downloading and building everything from source"?

Look, I'm typing this on a MacBook, but that's the most ridiculously outdated Linux cliché in the book.

The App store is just package management, which Linux has had for a while, and which Mac OS X is sadly missing.

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