The #1 reason why this app failed is because people like me, and especially my mother, who would have been a power user...did not know it existed until this Medium post. Your problem has less to do with the app itself and more to do with how it was promoted and marketed.
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#42The #1 reason why this app failed is because people like me, and especially my mother, who would have been a power user...did not know it existed until this Medium post. Your problem has less to do with the app itself and more to do with how it was promoted and marketed.
He addressed that. Discovery is broken on most app stores
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#43I know there's a big push against Not-Invented-Here-Syndrome, but he makes a good point about how a lot of small apps and websites depend on services that drastically change or disappear over the course of a few years. I wonder if in some cases it's better to simply develop an in-house solution for a service — it may be more expensive and less refined, but at least you know that service will be there as long as your…
To me it would make sense to go airline by airline (or datasource by datasource as long as they're tied to something users will understand), do the full integration, then advertise which airlines you support. Then you could guarantee a good experience for every officially supported airline. Additionally, as you do this you're building tech that is super valuable (sounds like only 2 other people have done it?).
Real estate data is similarly messy and though we have a small engineering team (3 full-time programmers), we decided to roll our own data integrations with each of the MLS systems we connect to. For us, it came down to the fact that we could provide a better user experience this way (faster, more complete listing data) and that it fits with our approach to product development. Rather than using a data middleman to turn on 50% listing coverage across the entire US, we pick a city or region and piece together all of the listing sources so that when we go live in that region we have extremely high coverage. We then only advertise to users in those areas.
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#44From the article: While the app was initially used primarily by individuals who made a few airport pickups per year, today Just Landed is increasingly used by professional limousine and taxi drivers, airline professionals, and travel companies. So they were seeing increasing use by commercial users. Sounds like a ripe opportunity to start charging for such access.
And then watch someone else launch a free version 3 weeks later...
Reading the article, its clear that won't ever happen. The data sources are expensive.
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#45This sucks for us long-term users of Just Landed. I want to congratulate John for making something people _clearly_ wanted. Apparently sometimes that's not enough... This jumped out at me: "...Just Landed has outlived several of the services that it originally depended on, and each time a service provider has disappeared..." This statement refers to the less than 4 years old app, which speaks volumes about value prop…
My buddy enjoys rendering weather data. Using just one source- NOAA - he has to update the app several times a year to respond to their capricious, random changes to web interfaces, server names, random hosting requirements and so on. Its a real thing to factor into any data-repackaging app.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
And then watch someone else launch a free version 3 weeks later...
Reading the article, its clear that won't ever happen. The data sources are expensive.
I've been thinking recently about crowdsourcing our own dataset of airplane data. When you get on a plane, tap a button that says 'we're delayed 5 mins'. When you land, tap a button that says you've landed. In fact, you probably don't even need users to tap those buttons. The better way would be to use the accelerometer and barometer to automatically detect takeoff and landing.
Airplane data sources are ALWAYS wrong in my experience. I have been on a flight that was 2 hours late but all the flight data sources/apps would say 'On time'. Bullshit. And very often there are delays that the flight data does not account for, but are real delays. User's phones could provide a much more real-time view on where airplanes actually are than any existing flight data source. I hate sitting on a plane and knowing that I am more up-to-date on how late we are than the official data source is. That's super annoying and it seems like there's an 'easy' fix: just build a new kind of crowdsourced, real-time flight data service.
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#47The #1 reason why this app failed is because people like me, and especially my mother, who would have been a power user...did not know it existed until this Medium post. Your problem has less to do with the app itself and more to do with how it was promoted and marketed.
He addressed that. Discovery is broken on most app stores
Maybe the Medium "we're-shutting-down" post will become the occasional "hey world we exist" strategy.
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#48The #1 reason why this app failed is because people like me, and especially my mother, who would have been a power user...did not know it existed until this Medium post. Your problem has less to do with the app itself and more to do with how it was promoted and marketed.
I think that's his main point about the discovery process in the App Store. Even being features numerous times by Apple wasn't enough.
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#49> With well over 2 million apps by now (officially 1.5M as of July 2015), the iTunes App Store is an incredibly crowded place where it’s almost impossible to get noticed. Despite the persistent myth of the app developer millionaire, it’s extremely hard to make a profit—let alone a living—as an iOS app developer. The Google Play Store is a similar story, except with the added bonus of rampant piracy and a zillion devices to support. There really isn’t gold in them hills, at least not anymore, and independent app development will soon be in sharp decline, if it isn’t already.
Is this true? Is the app store deceiving developers by pretending that earnings are better?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reading the article, its clear that won't ever happen. The data sources are expensive.
I've been thinking recently about crowdsourcing our own dataset of airplane data. When you get on a plane, tap a button that says 'we're delayed 5 mins'. When you land, tap a button that says you've landed. In fact, you probably don't even need users to tap those buttons. The better way would be to use the accelerometer and barometer to automatically detect takeoff and landing. Airplane data sources are ALWAYS wrong…
> use the accelerometer and barometer to automatically detect takeoff and landing.
Or check location with a given interval and see when they no longer travel at mach 1?