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CoeLux: Artificial Sunlight That’s Real Enough to Trick Your Camera and Brain

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Re: CoeLux: Artificial Sunlight That’s Real Enough to Trick Your Camera and Brain

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Now prices have fallen. We have installed about 50 systems till now

Have you explored possibility of making this light rich enough in different wavelengths to also let plants grow under it? Or is it not possible with LEDs?

Grow lights already exist, and are several hundred times cheaper.

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It would have to produce vitamin-D (or whatever the sunlight produces when it hits your skin) in order to combat that. Source: Me in wintertime Sweden.

Concurrent orally-administered vitamin D would achieve the same effect.

Do you have a source for that?

My understanding is that (a) utilization of dietary vitamin D is significantly lower than naturally produced D (from sun exposure) and (b) vitamin D is one of several micronutrients produced from sun exposure.

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Don't forget seasonal affective disorder, or just the general influence on affects that cloudy weather has. Imagine waking up to streaming sunlight every morning. I can see that making a huge change in people's lives.

It would have to produce vitamin-D (or whatever the sunlight produces when it hits your skin) in order to combat that. Source: Me in wintertime Sweden.

Melatonin as well

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While this is is nice, the main breakthrough of CoeLux is the simulation of Rayleigh scattering, not just a bright diffused light.

Lot of things scatter. There is probably something cheaper than $35,000 per light. Maybe milk could be used? :) http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wyj6iHUndhg/UXpUk6HxfLI/AAAAAAAACu... http://thestandardmodel.blogspot.com/2013/04/when-i-was-chil... It feels like they charge so much not because there would be some principal engineering / technical obstacle but simply because they can. They have been the first who realized some…

They might charge as much as they do because they're making their special-sauce material in a really non-cost-effective small-batch way. If that's true, then if they just released their material process patent into the public domain, probably the windows would still cost $35k for a while, and then gradually decline, step-wise, as competitors created bigger and better processes to do the same thing.

Re: CoeLux: Artificial Sunlight That’s Real Enough to Trick Your Camera and Brain

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I'm looking up at my square white ceiling wondering what it would be like if the entire surface was this CoeLux panel. Imagine a vibrant blue sky with a beautiful sun tracking its way across your ceiling all day. I think it could be breathtaking.

This is the type of 'simple' invention that you could never really anticipate but changes the future profoundly.

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Concurrent orally-administered vitamin D would achieve the same effect.

Do you have a source for that? My understanding is that (a) utilization of dietary vitamin D is significantly lower than naturally produced D (from sun exposure) and (b) vitamin D is one of several micronutrients produced from sun exposure.

> My understanding is that (a) utilization of dietary vitamin D is significantly lower than naturally produced D (from sun exposure)...

The end product of UVB irradiated skin (i.e., sunlight) is vitamin D3. (D3 is "activated" locally in tissues utilizing it.) Ingested D3 supplements effectively add to the body's supply, though the optimum intake is controversial and varies among individuals.

One difference between sunlight and supplements is that D3 production via UVB exposure has an upper bound, only so much can be made because there's a limited amount of substrate available in skin cells to convert to vitamin D. The upshot is sunlight is "safer" re: potential toxicity of excessive vitamin D intake.

AFAIK vitamin D is unique among nutritional factors in its reliance on UVB exposure. Don't know of any other micronutrients directly related to sunlight, but possible there's something I've overlooked.

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