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For gifted children, being intelligent can have dark implications (2015)

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Re: For gifted children, being intelligent can have dark implications (2015)

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Ah yes, the monthly link to an article about intelligent/gifted children and the troubles their talents cause them, leading to all the self-proclaimed gifted HNers coming out of the woodwork declaiming "Me too! Me too! Finally someone who understands me!". Not dismissing the article itself, but it's definitely a pattern on HN.

People miss the point. Intelligence isn't a gift for most people it is just a curse that you have to over come.

Re: For gifted children, being intelligent can have dark implications (2015)

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I was bullied for 8 years in primary school. I made the simple mistake of showing off how much smarter I am than the rest of the class (I was kind of a prick about that, looking at it now), and it was impossible to fix it later. Having visible skin condition, walking around bandaged for months, and asthma had not helped either. I've learnt how to adjust when I was in hospitals and sanatorium, changing einvironment a…

> It works as a vaccine against tribal thinking.

Yeah, well. About that... It might not be related but I have often been singled out because of strabism and I also developed a strong tendency to swim against the current in tribal settings (applause, talking about the movie we just saw when living the theater, political discussion). It's okay now, I know I have that tendency and watch out for it. Can't say for sure if it's related though.

Anyway. I would never fun of anyone based on their looks. This, I am pretty sure it's related. Although I have known some mean kid with deformities.

Re: For gifted children, being intelligent can have dark implications (2015)

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But my mum had to cut all the tags out of my shirts when I was in school too! Finally someone who feels my pain! :P Edit: She did though, damn things were itchy. Doesn't seem to be a problem since I grew up though. Funny that.

So spoiled! I had to cut out my own tags.

Totally privileged.

Re: For gifted children, being intelligent can have dark implications (2015)

#45

Ah yes, the monthly link to an article about intelligent/gifted children and the troubles their talents cause them, leading to all the self-proclaimed gifted HNers coming out of the woodwork declaiming "Me too! Me too! Finally someone who understands me!". Not dismissing the article itself, but it's definitely a pattern on HN.

aaaand.... patterns are bad?

Re: For gifted children, being intelligent can have dark implications (2015)

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post #45

Ah yes, the monthly link to an article about intelligent/gifted children and the troubles their talents cause them, leading to all the self-proclaimed gifted HNers coming out of the woodwork declaiming "Me too! Me too! Finally someone who understands me!". Not dismissing the article itself, but it's definitely a pattern on HN.

aaaand.... patterns are bad?

Eternal September. Rings a bell?

Re: For gifted children, being intelligent can have dark implications (2015)

#47

Ah yes, the monthly link to an article about intelligent/gifted children and the troubles their talents cause them, leading to all the self-proclaimed gifted HNers coming out of the woodwork declaiming "Me too! Me too! Finally someone who understands me!". Not dismissing the article itself, but it's definitely a pattern on HN.

Most people intuitively understand that a person with 25 points lower IQ than the average population is going to have unique problems and go through life in a slightly different path and order than the average. However, for some reason, this is not easily understood regarding people with 25 points over the average.

It's also a pattern on HN because it really is a rather new concept. In Sweden, the law that dictates that every child should have a education that match their ability came into reality 2010 (2010:800, 3§). Before that, the goal was to target the lowest common denominator that would create a passing grade for everyone. This meant that school material targeting IQ around 75 was also put in the hands of children with around IQ 125, and unsurprisingly, this caused problems with under-stimulation and children that go through school without any training in studying.

Re: For gifted children, being intelligent can have dark implications (2015)

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I was bullied for 8 years in primary school. I made the simple mistake of showing off how much smarter I am than the rest of the class (I was kind of a prick about that, looking at it now), and it was impossible to fix it later. Having visible skin condition, walking around bandaged for months, and asthma had not helped either. I've learnt how to adjust when I was in hospitals and sanatorium, changing einvironment a…

> I also think being on the receiving end of ostracism is valuable experience (but not for 8 years, a few months would suffice). It works as a vaccine against tribal thinking.

Peter Thiel said something about this once, speculating on why "disruptive" (pretty sure that was not the word he used) start-ups are disproportionally run by awkward social outsiders, and his theory is that "normal" kids instinctively seek validation from peers, and for these "disruptive" start-ups, they are saying that it's insane, it can't be done (go work in law/finance/management consulting instead). The awkward kids don't care (as much), and are therefore able to focus on actually doing it.

Re: For gifted children, being intelligent can have dark implications (2015)

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Er, what does this have to do with men? It's not like this only afflicts boys.

Everything that relates to outlier characteristics will disproportionately affect more boys than girls. The more extreme the outlier the much more likely it will be a boy. This is just basic human biology that like the GP mentioned is routinely deliberately ignored by feminism.

Or as Helena Cronin succinctly described men: "more dumbbells but more Nobels".

Re: For gifted children, being intelligent can have dark implications (2015)

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Ah yes, the monthly link to an article about intelligent/gifted children and the troubles their talents cause them, leading to all the self-proclaimed gifted HNers coming out of the woodwork declaiming "Me too! Me too! Finally someone who understands me!". Not dismissing the article itself, but it's definitely a pattern on HN.

I see no reason to call this out derisively.

It's clear that the US educational system simply doesn't know how to handle high intelligence.

And why wouldn't they gravitate towards HN?

> self-proclaimed gifted HNers

Did you see how much tests for giftedness cost in the article? Do you really expect all these people to go out and get tested before feeling like they have permission to comment on an Internet forum about their experience?

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