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Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Post by _jomo »

coldpie wrote: post #22
smaili wrote: post #10

Fantastic news and congrats to the NY Times team. Does anyone know, who at this point still continues to use Flash?

Twitch.tv, sadly.

There's Beam [0], it's quite new but I've been quite amazed by their work. They invented some sort of own protocol built on web standards [1]. Also, their streams are actually live (i.e. minimal delay), it's all HTTPS and a lot of their work is open source. [2]

I hope this is going to be a thing.

0: https://beam.pro

1: http://forums.beam.pro/topic/168/where-we-re-at-with-html5-v...

2: https://github.com/watchbeam

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Post by thiagopnts »

dplgk wrote: post #23

Has anyone here that is excited about HTML5 video (and Flash being dead) ever written an enterprise video player? It's a total nightmare in HTML5. You have little control over playback and insight into video events. Meeting business requirements (that Flash fulfilled) with HTML5 video ranges from hard to not possible.

there is also http://clappr.io

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Post by rjvir »

epistasis wrote: post #39
tbrock wrote: post #4

Sometimes I think Steve Jobs' greatest contribution may have been killing flash. Today is a glorious day.

This really wasn't a Steve Jobs contribution in the least, it was Adobe. Flash on mobile was terrible, Steve Jobs may have been the messenger for that but he wasn't the decision maker.

Apple not supporting Flash was a crucial part of it's demise, though. Without that, we might be running Flash on mobile today, even though it was terrible.

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Post by sp332 »

epistasis wrote: post #39
tbrock wrote: post #4

Sometimes I think Steve Jobs' greatest contribution may have been killing flash. Today is a glorious day.

This really wasn't a Steve Jobs contribution in the least, it was Adobe. Flash on mobile was terrible, Steve Jobs may have been the messenger for that but he wasn't the decision maker.

Being terrible didn't stop them from putting it on Android. I'm sure Adobe would have loved to be on iOS if they'd been allowed into the browser.

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Post by dude_abides »

TheCoreh wrote: post #38
dude_abides wrote: post #36

What I found most heartening about the article was that it spent several paragraphs describing why they initially had to use Flash, and how they managed to get rid of it, but not a single sentence saying _why_ they decided to get rid of Flash. We've come a long way! (Also, thanks Steve Jobs!!!)

> Throughout the second half of 2015, Chrome, Firefox and Safari also began blocking the Flash plugin from automatically loading content unless users gave their permission. In order to continue providing a quality video experience for our viewers, switching exclusively to HTML5 video became necessary.

Hah missed that. In that case, thanks are due to Chrome+Firefox+Safari!

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Post by rplnt »

Let's see when Facebook converts. For some reason they love to serve Flash based SOLELY on user agent. So you have a chrome fork without flash? Here, watch this flash. Oh, and this gif is now flash as well.

I can't quite figure out why.. but I would vote for incompetence. Can't see any business motivation for doing that.

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Post by rifung »

epistasis wrote: post #39
tbrock wrote: post #4

Sometimes I think Steve Jobs' greatest contribution may have been killing flash. Today is a glorious day.

This really wasn't a Steve Jobs contribution in the least, it was Adobe. Flash on mobile was terrible, Steve Jobs may have been the messenger for that but he wasn't the decision maker.

Flash wasn't even supported on iOS. I'd argue that was huge in killing off Flash, since anybody who wanted to make their site work on mobile could no longer use Flash.
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