Well the biggest reason people put on weight is because they don't understand how calories work from a lack of education, which is why poor people and immigrants generally become the most overweight. People who don't speak English well won't run into scientific articles that talk about calories, so they aren't even thinking about the subject.
Why do people put on differing amounts of weight?
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Re: Why do people put on differing amounts of weight?
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess the saying, everybody is different applies here. I still remember the days when I could eat 3 - 4 pound of beef, along side with mesh potato, or 12 inch Pizza, or whole bucket ( 10pcs ) KFC, per meal! And these meals would come with Coke as well. in Tea time i will eat Ice Cream, eat lots of yogurt etc. I dont do lots of sports, may be once a week maximum. Otherwise I just sit down playing World of Warcraft o…
> then I was definitely eating 4000+ calories per day and not getting Fat. Not true at all, you weren't even counting your calories you're just throwing out a number. And if you were counting you were counting wrong. That's a huge part of people who say they can't gain or lose weight. They claim to eat these vast amount (or extremely low amount) of calories when they really have no idea. People trying to lose weight…
It definitely can be the case. Absorption of calories depends on the person so the same people who eat 2k calories could get roughly 2k calories OR LESS depending on the gut bacteria and other variables.
I do agree with you on people's reported caloric intake. Most people inaccurately record their eating habits. I use an app to get an idea of what my day was like.
Re: Why do people put on differing amounts of weight?
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it's actually a pretty good idea. who wouldn't want to be born with excellent immune system, strong and tall, smart and attractive?
You need the ugly to actually realize beauty. If everyone is beautiful, the word "beautiful" wouldn't make any sense. You could argue that this would be a solution to many discrimination issues today if everyone is beautiful, strong, tall, ... . Mhh. Interesting thought.
As you realized, beauty is relative (to ugliness). I can't quite grasp how you missed this relative aspect by going further with your assumption of "everyone is beautiful". People will always find distinctions and there always will be a scale of beauty (or whatever else).
Re: Why do people put on differing amounts of weight?
#44Interesting results. While I understand the microbes do affect how we process foods does our diet affect how they work? As in, if long term she eats grapes then perhaps either the microbes in her changed or the microbes themselves adopted a new behavior. So the idea is, put a group of people on a strict diet long enough to affect which microbes they have and the exposure of the microbes to the diet. Then take three d…
I'm not that versed in the subject, but my (dilettante) guess is that our own behavior may affect the fauna of our digestive microbes by consuming spicy food, alcohol, having nicotine in blood, or through other unhealthy habits.
Re: Why do people put on differing amounts of weight?
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one wants to admit it's their fault they got fat, but it always is. If that were the case then studies to find out why two people can eat the same thing and do the same amount of exercise yet one of them can end up fatter than the other wouldn't be necessary. It seems to be the case that, all external factors being equal, how fat you are can be determined by something outside of your control (genetics, gut microbe…
It's tough to hear but no matter what your genetics or internal flora are, being overweight is still your fault . It may not be "fair" that someone puts on less weight than someone else eating the same diet, but ultimately you're the one responsible for maintaining your own weight (by controlling what you put in your mouth) no matter what the state of your gut microbes. edit: not picking on you Onion2k...I end up com…
And to add to your point, you also can absolutely change the number of calories you're burning. Exercise (especially at high intensity) can make a huge difference.
Re: Why do people put on differing amounts of weight?
#46Well the biggest reason people put on weight is because they don't understand how calories work from a lack of education, which is why poor people and immigrants generally become the most overweight. People who don't speak English well won't run into scientific articles that talk about calories, so they aren't even thinking about the subject.
Most people don't understand calories as it relates to their food intake. However lack of education has very little to do with it. Just look at all the comments in this thread. The things that can be said to be true are:
Thermodynamics is correct..
People consuming same amount of food may end up absorbing different calories from it.
They also may burn calories at slightly different rates.
This is all very helpful but not a plan to control weight.
Poor people (anecdotal) have less time to cook healthy meals and hence end up eating calorie dense fast food. PS: edit . typo. Grammer. Phone..
Re: Why do people put on differing amounts of weight?
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> Doing research on what people eat is VERY hard, it's very hard to get accurate data. AKA, don't bother with any studies with self-reported data. No one wants to admit it's their fault they got fat, but it always is.
No one wants to admit it's their fault they got fat, but it always is. If that were the case then studies to find out why two people can eat the same thing and do the same amount of exercise yet one of them can end up fatter than the other wouldn't be necessary. It seems to be the case that, all external factors being equal, how fat you are can be determined by something outside of your control (genetics, gut microbe…
Without it being entirely their fault.
I know I am at least partially at fault for being fat. I sit on ass all day and rarely exercise. That certainly doesn't help.
But I also know that several of the reasons for obesity do not originate in the frontal lobe of the brain, and are therefore not the result of conscious decision-making. And that absolves me from some fraction of the burden of culpability.
But not the whole thing. I could make conscious choices to make my body healthier. But I don't, and therefore I can accept at least a little bit of the blame.
It's more important to me that I don't care one little bit about how strangers feel about my obesity. The only one I am answerable to for the condition of my body is myself. So if you choose to view me as a slothful glutton, you may. If you choose to view me as the unlucky product of genes, microbiome, and advertising, you may. I only care to the extent that you can help me achieve my own health goals.
Continually reiterating the thermodynamic dietary hypothesis to me (energy eaten minus energy expended) does not help. I doubt it helps anyone except possibly those who do not already know what a kilocalorie is.
That's why I like that research in this vein is being pursued. Even if no one loses even a single gram of white adipose tissue as a result, it could at least help kill off the multitude of fad diets that do not work for anyone, regardless of their individual physiology. And it might instill a bit of humility and understanding in those who never quite grasped that their fit bodies are the result of hard work and good fortune, not just the former.
Re: Why do people put on differing amounts of weight?
#48Well the biggest reason people put on weight is because they don't understand how calories work from a lack of education, which is why poor people and immigrants generally become the most overweight. People who don't speak English well won't run into scientific articles that talk about calories, so they aren't even thinking about the subject.
Most people don't understand calories as it relates to their food intake. However lack of education has very little to do with it. Just look at all the comments in this thread. The things that can be said to be true are: Thermodynamics is correct.. People consuming same amount of food may end up absorbing different calories from it. They also may burn calories at slightly different rates. This is all very helpful but…
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Re: Why do people put on differing amounts of weight?
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one wants to admit it's their fault they got fat, but it always is. If that were the case then studies to find out why two people can eat the same thing and do the same amount of exercise yet one of them can end up fatter than the other wouldn't be necessary. It seems to be the case that, all external factors being equal, how fat you are can be determined by something outside of your control (genetics, gut microbe…
It's tough to hear but no matter what your genetics or internal flora are, being overweight is still your fault . It may not be "fair" that someone puts on less weight than someone else eating the same diet, but ultimately you're the one responsible for maintaining your own weight (by controlling what you put in your mouth) no matter what the state of your gut microbes. edit: not picking on you Onion2k...I end up com…
http://news.discovery.com/animals/fat-pets-obesity-weight.ht...
- Mammals that live near or with humans, from lab rats to pet pooches, have gotten fatter over recent decades.
- Fatter lab animals are the hardest to explain, since their diet is tightly controlled and well documented.
- Endocrine disruptors, pathogens or temperature changes might play a role and could also factor into human obesity
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-23970219
A study showed that transplanting gut bacteria from obese people into mice led to the animals gaining weight, while bacteria from lean people kept them slim. The findings were published in Science. Researchers at the Washington University School of Medicine, Missouri, took gut bacteria from pairs of twins - one obese, one thin.
The bacteria were then put into mice which had grown up in completely sterile environments and had no gut bacteria of their own. Mice with the obese twin's bacteria became heavier and put on more fat than mice given bacteria from a lean twin - and it was not down to the amount of food being eaten.
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Ok, so you may need 1300 calories a day to maintain an "ideal" bodyweight but The Minnesota Starvation Experiment shows that amount of food intake causes severe emotional stress and depression. So yeah
Re: Why do people put on differing amounts of weight?
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's tough to hear but no matter what your genetics or internal flora are, being overweight is still your fault . It may not be "fair" that someone puts on less weight than someone else eating the same diet, but ultimately you're the one responsible for maintaining your own weight (by controlling what you put in your mouth) no matter what the state of your gut microbes. edit: not picking on you Onion2k...I end up com…
http://news.discovery.com/animals/fat-pets-obesity-weight.ht... - Mammals that live near or with humans, from lab rats to pet pooches, have gotten fatter over recent decades. - Fatter lab animals are the hardest to explain, since their diet is tightly controlled and well documented. - Endocrine disruptors, pathogens or temperature changes might play a role and could also factor into human obesity http://www.bbc.com/n…
Where did the 1300 calories a day number come from? How big is the person that number is for? What is their activity level?