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ISIS Has a Smartphone App

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Re: ISIS Has a Smartphone App

#41

This is really stupid, surely? Even if it's not distributed via Google Play, Android will look at the package names of all installed apps. Therefore it's not difficult to find all the users with a subpoena to Google for these records.

That assumes a phone-home feature that cannot be turned off.

Re: ISIS Has a Smartphone App

#42
One would assume that all mobile cell towers would be a priority target. Given that they are not I think it's safe to assume that it's a goldmine for the intelligence services.

Just imagine all the side channels they have access to if they get access to the cell network. Doesn't really matter if messages are encrypted on the wire if all phones in a certain area is backdoored through a trusted network.

It's not hard to locate a cell tower from a safe distance.

Re: ISIS Has a Smartphone App

#43
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well sometimes you cannot tell...

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Here's an interesting historical fact I have dug up in some research for an essay I am writing about the relationship between liberty and security: That famous quote by Benjamin Franklin that “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” does not mean what it seems to say. Not at all.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-ben-franklin-really-said

And maybe it doesn't matter so much what Franklin was actually trying to say because the quotation means so much to us in terms of the tension between government power and individual liberties. But I do think it is worth remembering what he was actually trying to say because the actual context is much more sensitive to the problems of real governance than the flip quotation's use is, often.

http://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous...

Re: ISIS Has a Smartphone App

#44
I thought they can chat in Arabic and western intelligence agencies will have no clue what is going on.

There is very very little knowledge of Arabic language (with slang and such) in western intelligence agencies. As far as I now, there is less than 2,500 Americans are studying Arabic at colleges across the country right now. And 80% of them will be kicked out from country by "Trumps" as terrorists :-)

Re: ISIS Has a Smartphone App

#46

Alrawi can’t be downloaded from Google Play. Instead it must be installed from shady back alleys of the Internet. Well, there's your obvious solution. Get a copy of the APK, wrap it with some spyware, then propagate the bugged version. If ISIS won't host the source or can't provide an "official" outlet to grab it, you've got no way of knowing whether your version is legit or not. Who'd have thought the paradigms of s…

ISIS has a list of "allowed" devices, that can be used bye its members, iOS was banned long time ago for privacy invasions. I bet they forked Android and you can install only apps signed with a key and Android validates them before installation. If I did it with my Paranoid ROM and F-Droid key, why can't them?

Re: ISIS Has a Smartphone App

#48

Alrawi can’t be downloaded from Google Play. Instead it must be installed from shady back alleys of the Internet. Well, there's your obvious solution. Get a copy of the APK, wrap it with some spyware, then propagate the bugged version. If ISIS won't host the source or can't provide an "official" outlet to grab it, you've got no way of knowing whether your version is legit or not. Who'd have thought the paradigms of s…

But that's government surveillance, and HN comments are supposed to say that it's always bad and much worse than ISIS, right?

You got a few answers. I'm curious, did you change your mind on the subject of mass surveillance?

Re: ISIS Has a Smartphone App

#50
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well sometimes you cannot tell...

Since when it's better to assume that everybody is guilty?

I won't make a suggestion, because I don't have one.

However, I am against the circlejerk that we don't need to change anything to battle the seemingly rising terrorism.

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