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Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by JoshTriplett »

frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

> replaceable batteries

Have you ever seen the inside of a modern Ultrabook?

Pretty much the entire inside of the case is packed with battery cells, with only a tiny sliver near the hinge used by the system board. People comfortable opening the case and moving around a pile of tiny components and connectors could replace it, but I don't see any obvious way to make such a battery modular.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by jimktrains2 »

jrcii wrote: post #15
stadeschuldt wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish Apple would do the same. Unfortunately there is no MacBook Pro with 32 GB RAM.

Just out of curiosity, what are you using that much RAM for? Video editing?

Playing around with large datasets?

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by totalrobe »

frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

Did you see the retro concept they were throwing around?

Very curious to see if anything will come of this.

http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/retro-thinkpad-time-machine

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by bitwize »

Infinitesimus wrote: post #25
dingo_bat wrote: post #13

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New gen OLEDs like the one in Samsung S6 do not have any significant burn-in. If this thinkpad's display is sufficiently advanced, there won't be a problem. I do hope they are sourcing it from Samsung.

The s6's expected longevity (~2yrs per the contract model) is much smaller than the expected longevity of say, the average college students who buys this laptop for use in college. For the record, my Note 4 isn't showing any burn in after > 1yr of use, but who knows what it will be like 4 years down the line. A small number of users report burn-in on the newer s6/6p so I hope QC on the new Yogas will be tighter at th…

My Note 3 showed visible burn-in after about a year. That's why I don't trust amoled.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by totalrobe »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #41
frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

> replaceable batteries Have you ever seen the inside of a modern Ultrabook? Pretty much the entire inside of the case is packed with battery cells, with only a tiny sliver near the hinge used by the system board. People comfortable opening the case and moving around a pile of tiny components and connectors could replace it, but I don't see any obvious way to make such a battery modular.

Yeah, the current thinkpads with modular batteries have tiny capacity, unless you get the extended one that sticks out the back.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by tudorw »

Aoyagi wrote: post #39
frik wrote: post #2

Will Lenovo ever produce a high quality notebook again? All I want is a real "ThinkPad". Give me a proper T460 with 32GB RAM, IPS display, a recent Intel i7 CPU, replaceable batteries and the notebook body of the T410 or better the T60 or IBM ThinkPad T41.

Tech people trust Chinese companies nowadays?

tech people trust no one :)

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by Already__Taken »

leaveyou wrote: post #18
frik wrote: post #6

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Thanks for the pointer. It looks promising, except for the keyboard layout. WTF http://images.anandtech.com/doci/9889/T460.jpg Can we please go back to IBM designed keyboard layout. The T410 had a very good keyboard, I want to keep such an layout :( I want my keys grouped together not such a mess. The F1-4, F5-F8, F7-F12 keys should be grouped. The Del, Home, Page Up/Down keys should be grouped. I want to be producti…

I really don't understand what is their logic when they place a full Print Screen key (which I use 10 times a year at most) right between the Alt and Ctrl but the arrow keys are smaller and crowded and Home and End (which I use every time I edit something) are not even on the keyboard (or maybe there is some unhandy Fn+ shortcut?). WTF ? I got used to Sony Vaio which has full arrow keys and a smaller shift and an add…

F12 home end insert del, right there on the top row. I'd much rather them be function keys on the left/home right/end arrow keys.

Someone really needs to figure out a sleek backlit fixed size keyboard area for everyone to have their own keyboard custom printed. I wouldn't even want an insert key.

Crap-sized enter is a deal breaker too.

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by TeMPOraL »

jrcii wrote: post #15
stadeschuldt wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish Apple would do the same. Unfortunately there is no MacBook Pro with 32 GB RAM.

Just out of curiosity, what are you using that much RAM for? Video editing?

16GB for browser, 16GB for that Java IDE, and you're done. Don't forget to have an SSD as a backup RAM if you're using IntelliJ ;).

Re: Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display

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Post by bitwize »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #37
userbinator wrote: post #11

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Other features they definitely need to add back before I'll consider buying another ThinkPad: - Non-chiclet keyboard with decent layout - HDD and network activity indicator lights - Hardware wireless-off switch - Latching lid They certainly don't need to make it any thinner -- I've had to carry some Macbooks around and the sharp edges are not very hand-friendly. I think 1" throughout is about right for a laptop thick…

> Hardware wireless-off switch I have to wonder, why? The OS can do that quite well in software. > Latching lid More moving parts means more potential breakage. > They certainly don't need to make it any thinner -- I've had to carry some Macbooks around and the sharp edges are not very hand-friendly. I think 1" throughout is about right for a laptop thickness. Different customers have different preferences, but the m…

Because when the stewardess says "Please put your devices into airplane mode", flicking a switch is much easier than remembering the syntax for rfkill.

If something can be turned on or off, I don't want to rely on the OS to do it. Give me a hard switch. This even goes for system power.

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