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Anki – a program which makes remembering things easy

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Re: Anki – a program which makes remembering things easy

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Anki is a commerical app developer? Last I checked it's non-commercial/open source except for the iOS app.

The iOS app, which we're talking about re: the Apple developer fee, is most certainly a commercial endeavor. The FOSS desktop app doesn't change that.

Right, but I assume it went something like this:

1. Users nag developers about not having an iOS app

2. Developers start considering creating the iOS app. Finds out they have to pay $100 a year, on top of spending time to develop the app.

3. Developer decides to charge the users that wanted this app at a price where they can be fairly sure to at least regain monetary expenses.

This seems fair to me.

Re: Anki – a program which makes remembering things easy

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I used Anki for 30 minutes to an hour each day for about a year to memorise around 1500 Japanese characters and their readings, with the aid of a mnemonic technique. So long as you have an hour a day to dedicate to the flashcards without fail , you will retain the memorised information. My problem was that a job and location change altered my daily routine entirely, so I stopped reviewing the cards. One year later, I…

SRS is best used to reinforce things you learned outside the flashcard environment. So put things into Anki that you have some real-world context to anchor that memory to, and use Anki to reinforce that memory, not to create new memories that lack any vivid context in your mind outside of the drab flashcard app window where you first discovered the term in isolation. Ideally you're consuming native media, talking wit…

I make software to help language learners generate flashcards for SRS while reading or watching videos: http://readlang.com

It works as a browser extension for reading web-pages or you can upload texts and whole novels to read via the web-app. You can then click-to-translate words and phrases that you don't understand, and it generates cloze flashcards for use in it's own flashcards, or for export to apps like Anki.

Would love to hear feedback from anyone who tries it!

Re: Anki – a program which makes remembering things easy

#43

This is really great! I'm building a SaaS that is similar to this, but I was feeling bummed about not releasing it as open source; but now I can just point people to this if they want to run their own. awesome!

Is it in a ready enough state to share?

That depends on how you look at it. I'm using it, but is it ready for normal humans? I'm not sure. It's equally or more complicated than anki, and serves a larger usecase of doing the remembering for you and collaboration; and is not nearly as well documented as anki at the moment.

That said, if you're up for beta access, shoot me an email at r.letmein [a] ruru.name and i'll see about access

Re: Anki – a program which makes remembering things easy

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post #5

I used Anki for 30 minutes to an hour each day for about a year to memorise around 1500 Japanese characters and their readings, with the aid of a mnemonic technique. So long as you have an hour a day to dedicate to the flashcards without fail , you will retain the memorised information. My problem was that a job and location change altered my daily routine entirely, so I stopped reviewing the cards. One year later, I…

> soon becomes a pain when you have hundreds of cards to review every day

If you have hundreds to review each day then you've gone nuts adding new items too fast. I know, because I've done exactly that and have seen tons of other people make the same mistake. Adding something like 5-10 new items per day (max) keeps things manageable in the long run. I would suggest that if you're spending more than 10-15 minutes in review that you stop adding new items until your review is under control.

Another problem I've had that seems in common with others is that using SRS is somewhat addictive, feels productive, and gives you nice concrete numbers to gauge your "progress". Many people, like me, fall into the trap of spending more and more time doing SRS, displacing other parts of the curriculum.

> However, the characters I learned while living in Japan, in context, are still fresh in my mind.

So much this. I haven't lived abroad, but I listen to podcasts and other media in my target languages. Things that I've heard and looked up and then heard again multiple times are pretty much permanent now. However memory works, this seems to trigger "this is important and useful, don't lose it!"

Re: Anki – a program which makes remembering things easy

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SRS is best used to reinforce things you learned outside the flashcard environment. So put things into Anki that you have some real-world context to anchor that memory to, and use Anki to reinforce that memory, not to create new memories that lack any vivid context in your mind outside of the drab flashcard app window where you first discovered the term in isolation. Ideally you're consuming native media, talking wit…

I make software to help language learners generate flashcards for SRS while reading or watching videos: http://readlang.com It works as a browser extension for reading web-pages or you can upload texts and whole novels to read via the web-app. You can then click-to-translate words and phrases that you don't understand, and it generates cloze flashcards for use in it's own flashcards, or for export to apps like Anki.…

I glanced over the site, and was really taken by the simplicity of the approach! I've used Aki in the past, but resorted to scraping the sites I was learning from to create flash cards. This looks like it really takes the pain out of putting material in.

As a memory researcher, I'd love to see a good example of how you (or someone else) implemented readlang to learn a language. The site seems good at conveying how readlang can get flashcards cooking, but it would be interesting to hear how it was used as part of someone's language learning process (the big picture). I saw on the about page that you used it to learn Spanish, and there are a bunch of posts on the site, so it may be there and I missed it.

I'll definitely look more into it later this evening, but a few questions/thoughts I had were..

1. is there a good way to programmatically pull out flash card information (as say a JSON object)? Is the export to Anki as a csv/tsv?

2. How fleshed out is support for Chinese? What should I expect from it being in beta?

3. I was intrigued by the video player functionality, clicked the "Find something to watch now" on the features page. Clicked blindly. Arrived on a page of text in Spanish. Backed up. Realized that it was a mix of text articles and video articles. Scrolled down to a video article. Was very impressed with the player, but thought with a little less patience I may have missed it. This seems like an incredible feature (similar to fluentU's approach), and one that the link should take people to with as little friction as possible!

Sorry if any of this should have been clear from a more thorough read. I didn't have a lot of time to look, and was really impressed, so thought I would fire off my impressions before giving it a more thorough look :).

Re: Anki – a program which makes remembering things easy

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SRS is best used to reinforce things you learned outside the flashcard environment. So put things into Anki that you have some real-world context to anchor that memory to, and use Anki to reinforce that memory, not to create new memories that lack any vivid context in your mind outside of the drab flashcard app window where you first discovered the term in isolation. Ideally you're consuming native media, talking wit…

I make software to help language learners generate flashcards for SRS while reading or watching videos: http://readlang.com It works as a browser extension for reading web-pages or you can upload texts and whole novels to read via the web-app. You can then click-to-translate words and phrases that you don't understand, and it generates cloze flashcards for use in it's own flashcards, or for export to apps like Anki.…

Asks for premium before I really tried.

Re: Anki – a program which makes remembering things easy

#48
post #5

I used Anki for 30 minutes to an hour each day for about a year to memorise around 1500 Japanese characters and their readings, with the aid of a mnemonic technique. So long as you have an hour a day to dedicate to the flashcards without fail , you will retain the memorised information. My problem was that a job and location change altered my daily routine entirely, so I stopped reviewing the cards. One year later, I…

Interesting. Have you ever tried Heisig's remembering the Kanji method? I'm using that for the characters + skritter, and they're sticking fairly well. Though it's only the writing + keyword so far, no drawing.

I think Heisig says you will forget eventually though, and need to read some Japanese daily for life to retain them, ultimately.

I'm only using Anki to reinforce a Pimsleur course I'm doing, orally. I'm not sure that I'll use it for anything else, depends on the use case. I'm finding reviews pretty tedious.

Anki is still a great system, there are just limits to keep in mind.

Edit: The RTK method for Kanji involves making a story with the component elements of the character. So you use the power of imaginative memory to retain the characters.

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