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Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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> Yes, San Francisco has been skipped again and I’m going to go cry into my slow internet from Comcast.

I seriously still cannot get over how funny this is.

SF pitches itself as the centre of the tech universe, and yet, it still hasn't "disrupted" its own crappy broadband infrastructure. (Much less the rest of the country's!)

I'm sure there's many good reasons for Google passing them over, but that doesn't keep it from being hilarious.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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If I had to guess, I imagine they would start out around where their offices are in Venice and at least reach to where their Youtube studios are in Playa Vista. Both areas are big for startups along with all new development in Playa Vista.

Sounds like a good guess. Garcetti wants Silicon Beach to thrive in LA proper so the city can squeeze it for taxes.

It would be neat if they could somehow bring it along the border between LA and Santa Monica so they could play the two cities off each other: "We'll roll it out to the city that promises not to tax the crap out of it. Come on people, you want all those startups in _your_ town, don't you?"

Perhaps Google should also bring their fiber to Burbank (entertainment studio presence + related small service providers).

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

#43

LA has had notoriously bad ISP coverage. Most houses in the area only have a choice between one cable provider or going DSL. Nice to hear AT&T is planning to roll out gigabit fiber in LA as well. http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/12/att-bringing-gigabit... For some reason Verizon Fios has avoided LA proper but laid out Fiber along the outskirts and in Ventura County years ago.

This was me for a long time in DTLA, my only choice was AT&T for $50 a month for 8/1. Now I have Time Warner and I pay $55 for 200/20. Much happier.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well the announcements are kind of dishonest, they aren't doing whole cities. Select neighborhoods get the service and you actually be a street over and miss out. I remember the excitement when they announced Atlanta, until we saw the map. Yes it is impractical to cover a "city" but it would be more honest to say "Coming to select areas of X"

DTLA needs it badly too. Some of us are stuck with DSL :/

Look into that, my building on 7th & LA now offers TWC. It took a while though.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

#45

> Yes, San Francisco has been skipped again and I’m going to go cry into my slow internet from Comcast. I seriously still cannot get over how funny this is. SF pitches itself as the centre of the tech universe, and yet, it still hasn't "disrupted" its own crappy broadband infrastructure. (Much less the rest of the country's!) I'm sure there's many good reasons for Google passing them over, but that doesn't keep it fr…

Can't even skype anymore from my home, too unreliable

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

#46

Does anyone know what it takes to start up municipal fiber? There is a dark fiber line about 4 blocks from my house (in Berkeley), I feel that if I got enough neighbors to sign on to helping fund the initial costs of piping a connection to that, we could all get much better internet service -- but I don't know where one would start with that.

You would need to sign up with one or more of the major transit providers, such as Cogent, HE.net, Level 3, XO, or similar. (Or someone who resells such service.) You'd obtain an agreement to hook up that fiber to the Internet (such as via a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meet-me_room that the fiber leads to), and pay for the amount of transit you use (commonly billed either by the actual amount of traffic or by the 95th percentile of bandwidth usage). Then you'd need all the necessary equipment to get that connectivity to the various customers. And you'd need either a block of IP addresses to hand out or a NAT infrastructure.

(That leaves out all the non-connectivity-related issues you'd also have to handle, such as billing, cutting off service, collections, abuse reports, legal notices/investigations, support requests, etc.)

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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> Yes, San Francisco has been skipped again and I’m going to go cry into my slow internet from Comcast. I seriously still cannot get over how funny this is. SF pitches itself as the centre of the tech universe, and yet, it still hasn't "disrupted" its own crappy broadband infrastructure. (Much less the rest of the country's!) I'm sure there's many good reasons for Google passing them over, but that doesn't keep it fr…

Actually it has, which is probably why they are avoiding it. There are many broadband choices in SF, some with pretty high speeds, some totally wireless.

My guess is that the city, being as regulatory happy as it is (and being specifically anti-Google thanks to the bus fiasco), is not interested in working with Google to make fiber happen.

You'll notice San Jose is on the list, and that actually includes a whole bunch of suburbs too (except notably Cupertino).

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

#48

> Yes, San Francisco has been skipped again and I’m going to go cry into my slow internet from Comcast. I seriously still cannot get over how funny this is. SF pitches itself as the centre of the tech universe, and yet, it still hasn't "disrupted" its own crappy broadband infrastructure. (Much less the rest of the country's!) I'm sure there's many good reasons for Google passing them over, but that doesn't keep it fr…

Chris Sacca (of Twitter / Uber investing fame) spent months / years of his life working for Google trying to get San Francisco to agree to install free, city-wide WiFi paid for by Google. It didn't happen.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/S-F-stalling-Wi-Fi-plans-...

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> incarceration of multiple public officials and a raw deal for the city. What? How?

http://pols.uic.edu/political-science/chicago-politics > The Windy City has kept its crown as the most corrupt major city in the country over the last 40 years. But Houston is starting to give Chicago a run for its money. > According to new research released today by University of Illinois at Chicago political science professor Dick Simpson, there were 45 convictions for public corruption in 2013 (the latest year ava…

so the more convictions, the more corrupt?

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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LA has had notoriously bad ISP coverage. Most houses in the area only have a choice between one cable provider or going DSL. Nice to hear AT&T is planning to roll out gigabit fiber in LA as well. http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/12/att-bringing-gigabit... For some reason Verizon Fios has avoided LA proper but laid out Fiber along the outskirts and in Ventura County years ago.

> For some reason Verizon Fios has avoided LA proper but laid out Fiber along the outskirts and in Ventura County years ago. Not sure what you mean. I have Fios and I live in Los Angeles proper. The whole city doesn't have Fios, but parts of it certainly do.

Verizon at one point had grand plans of expanding FiOS through all of LA and eventually down through OC/San Diego (which was good news for me as a San Diego person), but about 5 years back they stopped expansion of covered areas.

They essentially killed FiOS off, but kept servicing customers in areas they already built out in.

So if you're in LA and you have FiOS, lucky you, but those who don't have it never will because they aren't building out at all anymore.

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