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Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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I'm confused. This town is in South Dakota, but the house linked to in the article, from Silence of the Lambs, is in Pennsylvania.

Lazy reporter, stock photo?

Probably, most of the time ESPN tries to show the North Dakota prairie with buffalos, they actually show stock footage of South Dakota. I would expect this is pretty common.

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The alcoholism and poverty on Pine Ridge and Rosebud are no joke. I think there's a genetic component and a cultural component that together almost guarantee it; both drivers are exacerbated by the insular nature of their community. I volunteered with the Habitat chapter near there. They could not build on the res because any houses under construction would be stripped of their copper wire and plumbing before they co…

"I think there's a genetic component and a cultural component that together almost guarantee it; both drivers are exacerbated by the insular nature of their community." You want to explain that, particularly the genetic component?

Predisposition for alcoholism is hertiable.

http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/aa60.htm

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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"Where are the wealthy who would like to try a bold experiment in communalism, anarchism, feminism or whatnot?" Flippant answer is that the two groups—"the wealthy," and people interested in that sort of thing—have almost no overlap.

An example of an exception to that rule of thumb: Robert Owen, a successful industrialist who became one of the founders of utopian socialism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Owen http://www.ushistory.org/us/26b.asp

I don't think someone who died in 1858 is an exception to the modern composition of the wealthy population.

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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Sounds like the owner or the bank are just trying to generate some PR buzz and rip off someone not from the area with more money than sense. It's a few acres of prairie with some buildings that need to be torn down. I'm not up to date on land prices in western SD, but I can't imagine good pasture land is worth more than $2k/acre, even with the surge in beef prices recently. It's also worth noting that the Pine Ridge…

The one stat I can remember from a volunteer trip several years ago was that an 18 yr old boy had a

This doesn't pass any sniff test I can think of.

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The alcoholism and poverty on Pine Ridge and Rosebud are no joke. I think there's a genetic component and a cultural component that together almost guarantee it; both drivers are exacerbated by the insular nature of their community. I volunteered with the Habitat chapter near there. They could not build on the res because any houses under construction would be stripped of their copper wire and plumbing before they co…

"I think there's a genetic component and a cultural component that together almost guarantee it; both drivers are exacerbated by the insular nature of their community." You want to explain that, particularly the genetic component?

Why so snarky? It would be pretty surprising if there weren't a genetic component to differences in populations.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I think there's a genetic component and a cultural component that together almost guarantee it; both drivers are exacerbated by the insular nature of their community." You want to explain that, particularly the genetic component?

Why so snarky? It would be pretty surprising if there weren't a genetic component to differences in populations.

I was involved in social services in the 90's on a reservation and "genetics" was one of those fun ways for people to give up (both the alcoholic and service providers "waste of money of those people"). I'm not terribly convinced seeing how different families have gone.

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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Sounds like the owner or the bank are just trying to generate some PR buzz and rip off someone not from the area with more money than sense. It's a few acres of prairie with some buildings that need to be torn down. I'm not up to date on land prices in western SD, but I can't imagine good pasture land is worth more than $2k/acre, even with the surge in beef prices recently. It's also worth noting that the Pine Ridge…

The one stat I can remember from a volunteer trip several years ago was that an 18 yr old boy had a This doesn't pass any sniff test I can think of.

I could believe "still living there when he was 25". Might be a corrupted context statistic.

The life expectancy for males in the county (whole reservation) is 71-72 years. If 50% are dying in their "stupid nearly adult years" they are going to have to have bunch living past 100 to bring the average up.

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According to Google Maps, it's on the Pine Ridge Reservation. An outsider thinking he'd like to own a small town in the country might be in for a surprise. I went to high school on a different reservation in western South Dakota. About the poverty: When I was in college in the mid-90s, I went on spring break work trips to the Rosebud reservation, and they cited a 90% adult male alcoholism rate.

The alcoholism and poverty on Pine Ridge and Rosebud are no joke. I think there's a genetic component and a cultural component that together almost guarantee it; both drivers are exacerbated by the insular nature of their community. I volunteered with the Habitat chapter near there. They could not build on the res because any houses under construction would be stripped of their copper wire and plumbing before they co…

> What they really need is a big employer to set up shop there: rising tide floating all boats, etc.

The casinos on some reservations have had a positive impact. At least there is a good employer in the area for those wanting a regular life. In my opinion (as an outsider) the best thing for them is to go to college off the reservation.

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I think there's a genetic component and a cultural component that together almost guarantee it; both drivers are exacerbated by the insular nature of their community." You want to explain that, particularly the genetic component?

Predisposition for alcoholism is hertiable. http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/aa60.htm

Given that, is there a specific genetic study saying the genetic condition is inherited in Native Americans (and I guess specifically the Lakota)?

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why so snarky? It would be pretty surprising if there weren't a genetic component to differences in populations.

I was involved in social services in the 90's on a reservation and "genetics" was one of those fun ways for people to give up (both the alcoholic and service providers "waste of money of those people"). I'm not terribly convinced seeing how different families have gone.

I think you've hit on one of the main reasons people get uncomfortable talking about genetic explanations for behavioral differences; it starts to sound like you're saying that some groups can't be helped or that there's an implied ranking of populations. Neither, of course, follows.
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