John Oliver (Last Week) on public defenders: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USkEzLuzmZ4
I was falsely arrested
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is an incredibly racist way to look at the issue.
Recognizing that, in practice, racial identity in the US has a significant correlation to various differences in life experience is not racism.
I would agree, that's not racism. However, I would say that a blanket statement about all members of a race such as this, 'black people have no alternative to understanding how the world really works.', is.
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#44The state needs to financially make whole persons who are wrongly arrested. There needs to be a standard set of damages that get paid out to someone who is in jail wrongfully. I would propose that the state owes you double the highest paid salary that you have earned in your career for the duration of your stay in prison. This is to both make a person whole for their missed earnings, and to repair the damages that ha…
I see you being downvoted, but I'm not sure why. Anyway, in the UK, YOU are invoiced for board and lodging upon release[1] [2]. The UK Home Office use it as a method of effectively diminishing any compensation payment to negligible sums (but oddly, only for male prisoners - female ones are not invoiced, apparently). 27 years wrongly imprisoned gets you total of around 46 pounds (around $80). [3] [1] http://www.dailym…
Interesting. In the US it really depends on which state you get arrested in.
Several states give you $50k / year, but 24 states give you 0: http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/03/us/table.wrongful.con...
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#45Everybody here in the comments seem to take the story on face value. Meanwhile, the only video attached to the post is pixelated to the highest degree, and you certainly can't see facial features on it. Am I missing something here?
Why is this being downvoted? The 34s video they released has 3 offenders, and you can't see any of their faces. While this could be not the only surveillance video in this case it doesn't really collaborates anything said in the post.
Because...innocent until proven guilty. But according to the parent comment, guilty until proven innocent. The author of the story doesn't need to prove anything to you. His experience and the fact that he was ultimately released from prison should be enough.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's complicated, though. How do you define "wrongfully arrested"? "Not guilty" is not the same as "innocent". "Charges dropped" is not the same as "innocent". This is not to say that all those arrested are guilty - far from it! But you would need a separate legal mechanism to distinguish actual wrongful arrests - and sadly, that mechanism would almost certainly be as badly biased by race and class as the existing co…
In both of the cases you mention (someone was found guilty or charges were dropped) it seems pretty obvious that the arrest was wrongful, and a jailed person should be compensated. Can you come up with non-trivial example?
Guilty verdicts are difficult in American law. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is hard to achieve, even when the accused is guilty. "Probable cause" is all that is needed for arrest, a much lower standard.
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#47I'm happy that this guy finally got out of jail. Here's hoping he doesn't let this terrible tragedy hurt him the rest of his life. I support any reasonable thing the public can do to help folks like him out. We live in a security state, and video cameras everywhere are beginning to show how rotten it is in places. Having said all of that, I do not want to see us become self-indulgent with pity. There are 300 million…
Just curious... are you American?
"Having said all of that, I do not want to see us become self-indulgent with pity. There are 300 million people in the U.S. There are tens of thousands of cops. You could run a video like this everyday and statistically there still wouldn't be much incompetence or corruption going on."
Because it's mind-boggling to me that you don't think there is incompetence and corruption.
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#48Everybody here in the comments seem to take the story on face value. Meanwhile, the only video attached to the post is pixelated to the highest degree, and you certainly can't see facial features on it. Am I missing something here?
If you're missing something, I must be missing it, too. He said that the person in the video is "lighter", and has a "hooked nose with a dent in it". I'm certain that there's another video that's not shown on the site, because there is no possible way that you could determine those details from the 20 pixels that make up the thief's face.
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#49Everybody here in the comments seem to take the story on face value. Meanwhile, the only video attached to the post is pixelated to the highest degree, and you certainly can't see facial features on it. Am I missing something here?
If that shot of the person's face is from a video of the incident that person is not him. Yes, there's lossy compression applied but that don't make someone's nose into a completely different nose.
Healthy skepticism is good but the only thing worth questioning here is if that shot is in fact real–something that could only be evaluated if they released the tape. But since they're not exactly going out of their way to do that I can only assume that it would be against their interests. Until they produce it I'll have to take his word at face value.
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#50The state needs to financially make whole persons who are wrongly arrested. There needs to be a standard set of damages that get paid out to someone who is in jail wrongfully. I would propose that the state owes you double the highest paid salary that you have earned in your career for the duration of your stay in prison. This is to both make a person whole for their missed earnings, and to repair the damages that ha…
Don't make it entirely on the State. The individuals who are acting negligently on behalf of the State need to have an incentive to do the right thing as well.