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Ask HN: Leaving as founder, what happens with equity?

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Re: Ask HN: Leaving as founder, what happens with equity?

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I've been in this situation before and I returned the equity because I felt like there was still a lot of work to do. The company ended up selling for $3 million four years later, so I would have make some cash, but I still feel like I did the right thing because I wasn't leaving an angry situation, I felt like they didn't need my expertise after they pivoted. Ultimately I think reputation matters the most, but if yo…

> I've been in this situation before and I returned the equity because I felt like there was still a lot of work to do Generally vested equity represents work done and unvested equity represents work still left to do. Did you guy just not do any vesting and award everyone's equity at the start?

We didn't have a cliff so it was only 3 or 4 months of work.

Re: Ask HN: Leaving as founder, what happens with equity?

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Can't the other owners simply do a "squeeze out"?

Can you explain this?

I once read that one owner can force another owner to sell their stock if the first one owns the majority of the stock. Like if you own 95% and another one just 5% you can make them sell.

Re: Ask HN: Leaving as founder, what happens with equity?

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Reexamination is proper because there's disagreement. IMO, as he lays out the facts, he shouldn't give away more than a token amount. But the other founders see the facts differently. So the right thing to do is to agree on what the equity is for and then discuss what the numbers should be and why.

The "right thing" was to agree on that before the work was performed. It's too late to go back on that now. The original vesting agreements are all that should hold. If the other founders want to come to a new agreement with some cash compensation or other special status in exchange for his returning some of the company's equity, that's up for negotiation.

I've never been in a vaguely successful startup where people do the right thing. What people do is approximate, do well enough to survive and grow, and defer the Right Thing until later.

Doing the Right Thing takes time.

Re: Ask HN: Leaving as founder, what happens with equity?

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And get any agreement in writing if you are going to wait till next funding round you should say you want a multiplier ie pay me x now or x +50% in 6 months x +100% in a year.

What do you mean by a multiplier? Why not just cash out at the valuation established in the funding round?

Payment for the extra risk and to take account of the time value of money e.g. $1000 now is worth more than $1000 in a years time.
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