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Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

maxerickson wrote: post #26
tux3 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is always impressive to me, I didn't realize a thing until "tlaknig"! Although I suppose you could specifically train an AI to recogize this.

Taking the best match from a spell checker on unrecognized words will handle most of it. A threshold would probably work better against a mix of jumbled words and real gibberish.

Wonder if you can choose a sentence such that humans see it one way (homophones, jumbles), perhaps via context clues, but the closest match (edit distance?) for the individual words gives a different sentence?

Certainly seems doable.

Along those lines would be something like: "if I have a coin and I, err,trun tit, which face is showing?" but it's not a good example. Here "err, trun tit" gets corrected to return but the end should find to "err, turn it" instead making the face showing be "the opposite".

Hopefully you get the idea, bet there are some really good phrases that would fit this scheme.

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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Post by codeshaman »

Regardless of wether M is currently more human than AI, we could project that in the not-so-distant future (after it's trained), M will be mostly, 99% AI.

The technology itself will become more and more available and other companies will also use similar AI tech to work with customers.

The ultimate moment will be when the AIs start talking to each other in human language, each 'thinking' that the other is a human.

That will be the moment when the machines have decided something for you and while at first you'll think that you triggered that, at some point it will become unclear - is the human triggering the AI or is the AI triggering the human.

Pretty soon, everything we consume and everywhere we go will be controlled (and, a bit later, predestined and programmed for us) by the AI.

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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Post by andreasvc »

Grue3 wrote: post #21

"Can you solve this CAPTCHA for me?" (provided the CAPTCHA is sufficiently OCR-resistant)

If you want to avoid giving information about whether you are an AI or human, you simply respond "No."

Besides, the CAPTCHA's that are sufficiently hard to solve for computers are already hard for humans as well.

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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Post by pluma »

drivers99 wrote: post #29
AJ007 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretending you have a working technology when you don't has been a recent theme in the startup world.

Thomas Edison claimed to have a long lasting light bulb before he actually did. He showed it to reporters one at a time in a booth. Between observers, he would change out the light for a fresh one. Source "How We Got to Now: Light" (on Netflix currently, at least in the US). Found the clip on PBS. Skip to 2:20 for the specific part: http://www.pbs.org/how-we-got-to-now/big-ideas/light/

I thought Edison had mostly been dismissed as not even remotely as great an inventor as most people thought he was?

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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Post by andreasvc »

fab1an wrote: post #5

Facebook's strategy here is to build an AI brand before they have the actual technology, which could make a lot of sense. At the same time the interactions between M's team and its users will provide meaningful data to train the AI on.

I've never heard vaporware characterized as something that "could make a lot of sense"; how could it?

Plus I'm doubtful whether the data would be very meaningful. A bunch of people adversarially trying to figure out whether the AI is real is not representative or generally useful data.

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Post by throwaway7767 »

pluma wrote: post #45
drivers99 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thomas Edison claimed to have a long lasting light bulb before he actually did. He showed it to reporters one at a time in a booth. Between observers, he would change out the light for a fresh one. Source "How We Got to Now: Light" (on Netflix currently, at least in the US). Found the clip on PBS. Skip to 2:20 for the specific part: http://www.pbs.org/how-we-got-to-now/big-ideas/light/

I thought Edison had mostly been dismissed as not even remotely as great an inventor as most people thought he was?

He was a businessman, who hired people to invent things. He was certainly useful, but it's always been surprising to me how much credit he got for inventing things.
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