This, combined with Microsoft trying to trick people into thinking they need a Microsoft account in order to create a user account, shows how far they have fallen.
Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped
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Re: Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped
#42This, combined with Microsoft trying to trick people into thinking they need a Microsoft account in order to create a user account, shows how far they have fallen.
Dates back to Win8 I think, Win10 actually improved this.
Re: Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped
#43Microsoft has essentially forced me to turn off Windows Update on all my Windows 7 machines/partitions and migrate everything I can to Linux. All I am waiting for is SteamOS delivering AAA games to Linux and I won't need to touch future Windows ever again. How can you justify using Windows for enterprise work if due to new policies you can't be assured you can keep anything you work on secret? I am not willing to kee…
Corporations would use Win10 Enterprise (which has the None/Security level as an option) and set most of the privacy options using Group Policy.
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#44Does anyone know the status of using the Windows Firewall to block this stuff? Since Search and other parts of the OS are actually apps it seems, if you set a default deny, then whitelist only certain parts, wouldn't that sort itself out? And any idea why MS is acting this way? Certainly offering a hidden opt-out registry key would satisfy a lot of customers, and not impact the telemetry data in a meaningful way. For…
I think some traffic do bypass the firewall, but it is mostly licensing stuff.
Re: Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped
#45This, combined with Microsoft trying to trick people into thinking they need a Microsoft account in order to create a user account, shows how far they have fallen.
Dates back to Win8 I think, Win10 actually improved this.
I know it started with 8 because my father, a computer novice, ended up with a Microsoft account because of how things were presented during setup.
If Win10 improved on this, that is good news.
Re: Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please, don't use these tools. Yes, they may fix the immediate problem, but you're still rewarding Microsoft with money and/or market share. You're sending them the message that you are loyal even when they abuse their power in obvious ways. By continuing to use their platform, you're conditioning[1] Microsoft to continue with stronger spyware in the future. Unless they see an actual reduction in revenue and fewer pe…
Okay, tell me how i can play all my Steam games then (no, not just the Source Engine ones).
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Re: Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped
#47Does anyone know the status of using the Windows Firewall to block this stuff? Since Search and other parts of the OS are actually apps it seems, if you set a default deny, then whitelist only certain parts, wouldn't that sort itself out? And any idea why MS is acting this way? Certainly offering a hidden opt-out registry key would satisfy a lot of customers, and not impact the telemetry data in a meaningful way. For…
I tried in the VM during beta, windows firewall deny all policy blocked _all traffic_. Should be enough unless MS decided to lie about data statistics visible to the user, I didnt look at the network stats outside vm.
Re: Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped
#48Does anyone know the status of using the Windows Firewall to block this stuff? Since Search and other parts of the OS are actually apps it seems, if you set a default deny, then whitelist only certain parts, wouldn't that sort itself out? And any idea why MS is acting this way? Certainly offering a hidden opt-out registry key would satisfy a lot of customers, and not impact the telemetry data in a meaningful way. For…
I think some traffic do bypass the firewall, but it is mostly licensing stuff.
Do you have any details? backdooring own firewall would be a HUGE deal.
Re: Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dates back to Win8 I think, Win10 actually improved this.
I know it started with 8 because my father, a computer novice, ended up with a Microsoft account because of how things were presented during setup. If Win10 improved on this, that is good news.
In particular, Win10 provides an easy link to skip it, unlike Win8.1.