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If you go around throwing buzzwords everywhere, tech people make fun of you. If you also wear a suit while throwing around buzzwords, well, all the more fun.
I think the problem is that most developers tend to be the nerdy types who didn't care much for fashion as a kid, or have the money in college to look good. Now they're in the workforce and they feel validated for dressing like shit: hoodies and pajamas are cute every once in a while but seriously, grow up and dress yourself like you're gonna get laid one of these days. The way I see it, if you code, chances are you'…
This has, naturally, led to the group-wide conclusion that keeping up with fashion trends is a pointless practice.
Unfortunately, I don't have a pair of those sunglasses from "They Live" that I can put on to read the secret messages on clothing, like "ADORE ME" or "I AM IMPORTANT" or "FEAR ME" or "SUBMIT". I have a feeling that they are there, whether I can see them or not.
Whatever the message is on a suit, it makes the nerd caste uncomfortable. I don't know exactly why.
I'm just glad that I don't have to think very hard about my clothing. My closet has a "work" section, and a "non-work" section, and I can just grab the first things I see from the appropriate section, put it on, and be done. Waaaaay back in the back of the closet is my sole instance of all-purpose formal attire. That's what I wear for weddings and funerals, without having to think about it.
The author of the article mentioned just how much effort was spent researching and purchasing his two suits. But once it was done, he could, like me, dress on autopilot every workday for the entire rest of his life. How can I possibly fault him for that?
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> Vest and tie? Lookin' good. No, this really looks genuinely terrible. Never wear a tie without a jacket. http://putthison.com/post/29635680290/q-and-answer-when-can-... > The answer is pretty much “I work at a cell phone store.” (vest without jacket is just as bad, except it's "I'm a waiter")
> (vest without jacket is just as bad, except it's "I'm a waiter") Pretty much only if it is a black vest with black pants and black tie and black or white shirt.
- Jacket - Tie - Vest
Each is a step up in formality, and should not be done without the previous, unless you're Nick Wooster, and you're not.
I think the problem is that most developers tend to be the nerdy types who didn't care much for fashion as a kid, or have the money in college to look good. Now they're in the workforce and they feel validated for dressing like shit: hoodies and pajamas are cute every once in a while but seriously, grow up and dress yourself like you're gonna get laid one of these days. The way I see it, if you code, chances are you'…
The nerd clique has oft been ridiculed for its manner of dress, without regard to whether those garments are the very same as those worn by others. This has, naturally, led to the group-wide conclusion that keeping up with fashion trends is a pointless practice. Unfortunately, I don't have a pair of those sunglasses from "They Live" that I can put on to read the secret messages on clothing, like "ADORE ME" or "I AM I…
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> (vest without jacket is just as bad, except it's "I'm a waiter") Pretty much only if it is a black vest with black pants and black tie and black or white shirt.
Think of it like this, an order of formality: - Jacket - Tie - Vest Each is a step up in formality, and should not be done without the previous, unless you're Nick Wooster, and you're not.
I'm not sure if these alleged rules you speak of are codified somewhere, but given the context of the conversation (people around me are wearing hoodies and pajamas while I'm wearing a suit), I find it hard to imagine any combination of jackets, ties, and vests being truly inappropriate...
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It seems the way to wear dress clothes in the startup/tech environment is not to wear a simple two-piece suit. The folks in my office that get away with business attire wear more stylish items such as vests paired with unmatching slacks, coupled with a bold-print shirt. These kinds of looks look way more difficult to create than going to Brooks Brothers and asking for two suits. One legitimate reason why I would expe…
> One legitimate reason why I would expect suit-wearers to be challenged is the fear of formal wear being required in the office. Business suits are business wear, not formal wear, which is a whole different category of clothing. Formal wear being required in the office would be a very odd thing, indeed.
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The nerd clique has oft been ridiculed for its manner of dress, without regard to whether those garments are the very same as those worn by others. This has, naturally, led to the group-wide conclusion that keeping up with fashion trends is a pointless practice. Unfortunately, I don't have a pair of those sunglasses from "They Live" that I can put on to read the secret messages on clothing, like "ADORE ME" or "I AM I…
Barack Obama says the only fashion choice he makes every day is red tie or blue tie. Every choice comes with decision fatigue, and he's got a lot to make.
I suspect that he makes a lot more fashion decisions than that implicitly, by delegating them to an employee. That's not exactly the same as having perfect indifference to all the various clothing options in your wardrobe.
It's funny - IMHO the Hoodie Uniform was developed because people didn't seem to care about fashion or the clothes they were wearing - the stereotypical devs. I can also see how this has come full circle now though, as I think to my own office and if anyone did come in a suit, they would stick out like a sore thumb. On one level, it seems to be a shame - suits do show a kind of respect or reverence for the place of w…
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Think of it like this, an order of formality: - Jacket - Tie - Vest Each is a step up in formality, and should not be done without the previous, unless you're Nick Wooster, and you're not.
I've seen people wearing a tie with no jacket; they did not work at a cell phone store, nor did I think that they looked like they did. I've seen people wearing vests (with or without ties) without jackets; they were not waiters, nor did I think that they looked like they were. I'm not sure if these alleged rules you speak of are codified somewhere, but given the context of the conversation (people around me are wear…
Personally, I don't like the look or feel of a tie with no jacket, or a suit with no tie.