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Re: A Good Vimrc

#41

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 12:55 PM UTC

kosma wrote: post #27

hoorayimhelping wrote: post #14

I don't use vim as my go to editor so I may be asking a silly question; does it just use idiotic defaults or something? I've only met a couple 'vim users' who could just hop onto someone else's vim setup and be productive, and I've never met a single vim user who could use someone else's setup without making comments about everything being different. I guess the question is do people modify vim cause they can or caus…

Vim's default are indeed dumb, but what you described is not a vim-specific problem. Walk into any room full of coders and try to use their computers; you'll discover tons of weirdness that can't be explained by anything except by a desire to be treated like a princess.* Things like rebinding basic shortcuts, reversing the scroll direction (Mac users will get this), swapping Cmd/Ctrl, using some obscure shell or even…

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Re: A Good Vimrc

#42

Post by DiabloD3 » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 12:58 PM UTC

callesgg wrote: post #16

what is the benefit of representing tabs by 4 spaces?

It is called personal choice.

Re: A Good Vimrc

#43

Post by krisdol » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 1:03 PM UTC

kosma wrote: post #27

hoorayimhelping wrote: post #14

I don't use vim as my go to editor so I may be asking a silly question; does it just use idiotic defaults or something? I've only met a couple 'vim users' who could just hop onto someone else's vim setup and be productive, and I've never met a single vim user who could use someone else's setup without making comments about everything being different. I guess the question is do people modify vim cause they can or caus…

Vim's default are indeed dumb, but what you described is not a vim-specific problem. Walk into any room full of coders and try to use their computers; you'll discover tons of weirdness that can't be explained by anything except by a desire to be treated like a princess.* Things like rebinding basic shortcuts, reversing the scroll direction (Mac users will get this), swapping Cmd/Ctrl, using some obscure shell or even…

Do you not have your own computer at work? Because that's what these ridiculous complaints sound like.

Re: A Good Vimrc

#44

Post by towb » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 1:04 PM UTC

hoorayimhelping wrote: post #14

I don't use vim as my go to editor so I may be asking a silly question; does it just use idiotic defaults or something? I've only met a couple 'vim users' who could just hop onto someone else's vim setup and be productive, and I've never met a single vim user who could use someone else's setup without making comments about everything being different. I guess the question is do people modify vim cause they can or caus…

Most code editors are half-useless by default though. I don't think anyone is using the default Atom or Sublime. It takes time to both tweak them and learn how to use them. So I don't think Vim is THAT different.

Re: A Good Vimrc

#45

Post by DiabloD3 » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 1:04 PM UTC

Heh, I store my entire config in a Github repo: https://github.com/Diablo-D3/config

Re: A Good Vimrc

#46

Post by chanchan1987 » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 1:06 PM UTC

goods

Re: A Good Vimrc

#47

Post by bandrami » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 1:08 PM UTC

0942v8653 wrote: post #33

nothrabannosir wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, am I missing something obvious here, or are you seriously complaining about people reversing the scroll direction on their own computers?

Apple reverses scrolling by default . I don't know about other coders' computers, but there are people who don't know how to change it, and whenever I boot into recovery mode it gets reversed.

It's only "reversed" if you consider the other direction "normal". Either one makes sense: Mac acts like your finger is moving the page itself; X11 and Windows act like your finger is moving the location indicator on the scrollbar. Either one makes sense a priori, but once you're used to one the other becomes intolerable.

Re: A Good Vimrc

#48

Post by debaserab2 » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 1:09 PM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #40

kosma wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vim's default are indeed dumb, but what you described is not a vim-specific problem. Walk into any room full of coders and try to use their computers; you'll discover tons of weirdness that can't be explained by anything except by a desire to be treated like a princess.* Things like rebinding basic shortcuts, reversing the scroll direction (Mac users will get this), swapping Cmd/Ctrl, using some obscure shell or even…

> that can't be explained by anything except by a desire to be treated like a princess Do you mean a desire to be more efficient? Am I some kind of princess because I decided to use a different keyboard layout than the default? That I decided to learn a different language than the one I was told to learn in school? That I wanted to install a different operating system than the one that came with my computer? Your com…

Glad someone had the same reaction I did. What's the value of conforming to a company standard when it makes you less efficient? Yeah, okay, chastise me and call me a princess - I'm going to go work somewhere else for someone who doesn't hold such a misguided set of principals and let's me work in my own best environment.

Re: A Good Vimrc

#49

Post by Nyubis » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 1:14 PM UTC

Rebinding jk to escape because escape is too far away seemed like a fairly ugly hack to me, especially because you can't type it anymore without waiting.

Why not simply rebind caps lock to escape? Caps lock is used awfully little, considering how prominent its position on the keyboard is. On Linux, you can rebind it by adding

  setxkbmap -option caps:escape

to your .profile. If instead of an additional escape you prefer it to be swapped around, use

  setxkbmap -option caps:swapescape

This is perhaps the most impactful change on my vim workflow.

Re: A Good Vimrc

#50

Post by atmosx » Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 1:18 PM UTC

kosma wrote: post #27

hoorayimhelping wrote: post #14

I don't use vim as my go to editor so I may be asking a silly question; does it just use idiotic defaults or something? I've only met a couple 'vim users' who could just hop onto someone else's vim setup and be productive, and I've never met a single vim user who could use someone else's setup without making comments about everything being different. I guess the question is do people modify vim cause they can or caus…

Vim's default are indeed dumb, but what you described is not a vim-specific problem. Walk into any room full of coders and try to use their computers; you'll discover tons of weirdness that can't be explained by anything except by a desire to be treated like a princess.* Things like rebinding basic shortcuts, reversing the scroll direction (Mac users will get this), swapping Cmd/Ctrl, using some obscure shell or even…

> This kind of overcustomization is fine if you live in a basement and work on a project alone.

Hahahahaha! You trolling?

I wonder, you work like 5 people on the same computer or something? And if 'yes', the OS doesn't support multiple users?! I don't wanna ruin a happy relationship or anything, but it's 2015... ;-)