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Re: Sentry 8 is here

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Post by spo81rty »

lobster_johnson wrote: post #18
zeeg wrote: post #2

David from Sentry here. We're hoping to do a sort-of AMA in the future about rebuilding Sentry (and the open source approach), but if anyone has any questions about the new version I'm happy to answer them.

Sentry looks cool. I have previously tested Rollbar and Airbrake, but was deeply unsatisfied with both. The big problem I have with all these services is that you need set up each application individually: Each one is a silo, with its own notification settings, API key, and so on. We have dozens of apps (several products + lots of microservices), so this is just unacceptable. I looked into whether I could use a singl…

Stackify works with a single API key for all apps and I think we do a good job with notification settings. Love to see what you think. Thanks Matt with Stackify.

Re: Sentry 8 is here

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Post by zeeg »

spdustin wrote: post #40

I'd really love to be able to use Sentry to collect errors in a closed .NET web app that just spams a log file. Is there a collector/raven for just tailing files (on Windows), configurable via RegEx or other parser definition? Right now we use a custom grok filter for Logstash and dump it all into Elasticsearch, but the Sentry UI sure would make life easier when something goes wrong and we have to figure out why.

There's not. The primary reason is that Sentry doesnt really match up well to traditional logging. A lot of we do involves highly structured data, and simply wouldn't be usable without that.

It helps to think of Sentry more like classic crash reporting more so than modern logging. We want (and need) to know precisely what a stacktrace is, which piece is the function name, the line number, etc.

Re: Sentry 8 is here

#43

Post by brianr »

lobster_johnson wrote: post #18
zeeg wrote: post #2

David from Sentry here. We're hoping to do a sort-of AMA in the future about rebuilding Sentry (and the open source approach), but if anyone has any questions about the new version I'm happy to answer them.

Sentry looks cool. I have previously tested Rollbar and Airbrake, but was deeply unsatisfied with both. The big problem I have with all these services is that you need set up each application individually: Each one is a silo, with its own notification settings, API key, and so on. We have dozens of apps (several products + lots of microservices), so this is just unacceptable. I looked into whether I could use a singl…

Brian from Rollbar here. You actually can do what you describe in Rollbar: set the name of the app as the 'environment' (configured via application code), and then you can just use a single API key. That's not really what it's designed for, but I think it would work rather well.

I'm not sure when you last looked at our APIs, but we do now have methods for creating and managing projects (though not yet notification settings): https://rollbar.com/docs/api/provisioning/

Re: Sentry 8 is here

#44

Post by brianr »

zeeg wrote: post #8
willtheperson wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you see yourself stacking up against Rollbar https://rollbar.com which has a free tier and unlimited users for paid plans? What makes your product more valuable?

We've been around for the better part of a decade and are completely open source (and free). Everything from our clients (which a lot of the community started) to every piece of the server. The only code you don't get access to is our billing infrastructure. We're also fortunate to call many of the biggest names in Silicon Valley (as well as outside) our customers. What you'll quickly find is anything that looks like…

Rollbar actually wasn't inspired by Sentry -- it was inspired by our founding team's efforts to solve exception tracking internally at Lolapps.

Several of the new features in Sentry (like release management / deploy tracking) actually look a lot like things that have been in Rollbar for a long while, though I expect that is the result of two smart teams attacking the same problem, rather than one inspiring the other.

Re: Sentry 8 is here

#45

Post by sul4bh »

zeeg wrote: post #29
sul4bh wrote: post #27

I am running a Sentry 7 instance. How does the upgrade path to 8 look like? Will I lose any data?

We always recommend reviewing the CHANGES, but if you're already on 7.x it should be mostly painless. You can't install via standard channels yet (effectively you need to install from GitHub), but otherwise there's no major concerns.

I now have 8.0 running. Thank you.

Re: Sentry 8 is here

#46

Post by crudbug »

zeeg wrote: post #2

David from Sentry here. We're hoping to do a sort-of AMA in the future about rebuilding Sentry (and the open source approach), but if anyone has any questions about the new version I'm happy to answer them.

Great work, I would suggest decoupling the front-end react components to create a separate widget library.

Re: Sentry 8 is here

#47

Post by lobster_johnson »

spo81rty wrote: post #41
lobster_johnson wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sentry looks cool. I have previously tested Rollbar and Airbrake, but was deeply unsatisfied with both. The big problem I have with all these services is that you need set up each application individually: Each one is a silo, with its own notification settings, API key, and so on. We have dozens of apps (several products + lots of microservices), so this is just unacceptable. I looked into whether I could use a singl…

Stackify works with a single API key for all apps and I think we do a good job with notification settings. Love to see what you think. Thanks Matt with Stackify.

Looks decent. Slack integration? Does it intelligently group messages with similar messages together? Is there a sandbox account I can look at without having to sign up and log test events?

Your logging service seems overpriced, by the way. I'd love to have a central, cloud-based log viewer, but our system is producing many, many gigs worth per day. At the moment our expenditures are about $80/mo for a small rsyslog box, but with your system we'd be paying thousands. For that price I can whip up a bunch of Graylog boxes and get approximately what you're offering, at the expense of having to admin ElasticSearch myself, which we're already doing anyway.

Re: Sentry 8 is here

#48

Post by zeeg »

crudbug wrote: post #46
zeeg wrote: post #2

David from Sentry here. We're hoping to do a sort-of AMA in the future about rebuilding Sentry (and the open source approach), but if anyone has any questions about the new version I'm happy to answer them.

Great work, I would suggest decoupling the front-end react components to create a separate widget library.

Our goal is definitely to decouple the frontend from the backend (entirely). We're still a ways out from that, but we've made a lot of progress.

Re: Sentry 8 is here

#49

Post by crudbug »

zeeg wrote: post #48
crudbug wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great work, I would suggest decoupling the front-end react components to create a separate widget library.

Our goal is definitely to decouple the frontend from the backend (entirely). We're still a ways out from that, but we've made a lot of progress.

+1

Re: Sentry 8 is here

#50

Post by spo81rty »

lobster_johnson wrote: post #47
spo81rty wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stackify works with a single API key for all apps and I think we do a good job with notification settings. Love to see what you think. Thanks Matt with Stackify.

Looks decent. Slack integration? Does it intelligently group messages with similar messages together? Is there a sandbox account I can look at without having to sign up and log test events? Your logging service seems overpriced, by the way. I'd love to have a central, cloud-based log viewer, but our system is producing many, many gigs worth per day. At the moment our expenditures are about $80/mo for a small rsyslog…

We integrate with Slack, TFS and JIRA. Yes we intelligent group things. From our home page you can click sandbox on the top menu and play around with most things.

We do some unique things like when looking at error show you all the log statements related to the same transaction.

Our pricing is similar to our competitors. But there are self hosted open source options as well, like you mentioned.

A lot of our customers like our product because we combine monitoring, errors, logs, metrics and even apm on one easy to use platform. It's very unique.

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