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Re: Amazon Snowball

#41

I thought they already allowed you to mail in hard drives?

They did but you had to buy them yourself and most of the times you didn't have a use for them after. With snowball they manage the process end to end.

There was also a lot of hassle in ensuring that you included the correct power adapter for each external drive, something that got complicated if you were shipping a lot of different models.

Re: Amazon Snowball

#42
post #37

Say I wanted to do something similar, but move data around locally between two NAS appliances, but not incur a double disk charge - (i've got a pack of ~ 20 disks in NAS brand a, but i want to move to NAS brand b. The disks work in both, but need reformatting). Does anyone know of a service where I could rent a 20TB device like snowball but not push it to S3?

I know Dell has glorified portable harddrive arrays in pelican styles cases for moving data between their SAN systems. Unfortunately I don't recall the name and I don't know if they are available for rental. If you have a Dell VAR, have them ask the Dell storage group.

Edit: Correction, it doesn't appear to be an array, just single device so 1.5-2TB max. Also basically targeted at this SAN solution only.

Re: Amazon Snowball

#43

I thought they already allowed you to mail in hard drives?

They did but you had to buy them yourself and most of the times you didn't have a use for them after. With snowball they manage the process end to end.

What's interesting is that they don't mention this on the marketing page for snowball. As in "also if you want you can mail your own harddrive, see this page for details". While most would think "why rain on the parade of this new service by mentioning the old service" with Amazon it's more than that. It's this entire idea of weaning people off of legacy ways of doing things (with new names and new processes) so it's harder for any competitor to offer the same type of service, unique way of doing things or handholding. After all anyone can accept (in theory) a mailed in hard drive. Much harder to offer a solution like this with hardware and so on. So to me this is obviously deliberate and consistent with Amazon wanting to raise an entire generation on a new paradigm of getting things done.

Edit: And yes this way it's easier for them as well and removes "missing power supplies" (big deal actually by I get the point..)

Re: Amazon Snowball

#44
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His MicroSD card calculations are off because it would take a month to insert an airplane-load of those cards one by one into some computer to copy them into your storage. Which also makes me wonder why this Snowball device only does Ethernet. Seems like it should have an eSATA port.

Maybe it'll be a 10GbE interface?

Ethernet is most ubiquitous. You don't need physical access to a server with data, just network access. Most environments outside of datacenters don't have 10GbE switches or NICs yet.

EDIT: It appears it supports 10GbE natively. I assume it'll also support lower Ethernet speeds.

Re: Amazon Snowball

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post #42
post #37

Say I wanted to do something similar, but move data around locally between two NAS appliances, but not incur a double disk charge - (i've got a pack of ~ 20 disks in NAS brand a, but i want to move to NAS brand b. The disks work in both, but need reformatting). Does anyone know of a service where I could rent a 20TB device like snowball but not push it to S3?

I know Dell has glorified portable harddrive arrays in pelican styles cases for moving data between their SAN systems. Unfortunately I don't recall the name and I don't know if they are available for rental. If you have a Dell VAR, have them ask the Dell storage group. Edit: Correction, it doesn't appear to be an array, just single device so 1.5-2TB max. Also basically targeted at this SAN solution only.

Yeah, I need to move 20TB in one go - so i can repurpose the disks.

Re: Amazon Snowball

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, all I could think was "Wow, that's a good deal fancier than a station wagon full of tapes". Cloud backup companies have had similar services for a while now, but it's nice to see AWS adopting it.

I have to admit, while it makes for good storage lock-in, I was impressed that they only charge 3 cents/GB to get the data back out. Someone else in this thread thought $1500 was expensive to get 50TB back out. If you use this for disaster recovery, you could get all of your data back onsite quickly for a very low (comparative) cost, versus trying to provision high speed connectivity.

Don't forget, there's the ongoing storage cost at S3, which also adds up really quickly.

Re: Amazon Snowball

#49
post #24

As usual, the pricing is not very friendly, and apparently designed to lock your data into AWS or exploit your weak negotiating position once you buy in. While you can send in 50TB for $200, taking the same 50TB out costs an additional $1500 charge (50000 * 0.03). [assuming they are not transferring the data over the Internet, the cost to AWS should be the same or cheaper for reading]

plus $200 for the job

Re: Amazon Snowball

#50
post #33
post #24

As usual, the pricing is not very friendly, and apparently designed to lock your data into AWS or exploit your weak negotiating position once you buy in. While you can send in 50TB for $200, taking the same 50TB out costs an additional $1500 charge (50000 * 0.03). [assuming they are not transferring the data over the Internet, the cost to AWS should be the same or cheaper for reading]

Same service needs to run the other way for the same price. $200 to get all your data shipped to you on an appliance/hard drive.

The service is called AWS Import/Export so it seems you probably can get them to export the data to a snowball for you to get your data.
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