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Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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OOC how many people would be interested in a Perl 6 Corporate Look n' Feel type site? Where everything is just designed to be boring and on message for production use in a business setting. Front page has Docker deployment and continuous integration setup steps etc. (that all exists and works FYI) Everything would be muted colours and mostly cloning the style of https://www.haskell.org/ or https://nodejs.org/en/ or e…

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Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Larry Wall's discussion on the logo, Camelia ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/perl6/mu/master/misc/camel... ): Discussion Highlights ===================== From: Larry Wall Date: March 24, 2009 10:25 Subject: Re: Logo considerations [...] I think there's a tendency to go way too abstract in most of these proposals. I want something with gut appeal on the order of Tux. In particular I want a logo for Perl 6 that is:…

I don't get it. How does disliking a butterfly logo equate to hating women?

It doesn't. The logo is more childish than it is feminine anyways.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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This reminds me of when jQuery had a cartoon ninja on their homepage. Am I seriously looking at a page targeted at grown adults with a talking butterfly on it?

And yet, everybody loves Go.

In my experience the Gopher logo is the second most criticized feature of the Go language, right after the lack of generics.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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I'm encouraged that this website looks this bad. We're in the last seizures before dying of Perl. Seriously, look around at the other options, they're all better. All of them. I'm so tired of this delusional community. Let Perl be legacy; turn the lights out.

I'm all for live and let live... until I find some perl on a legacy box I have to maintain :-(

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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I'm encouraged that this website looks this bad. We're in the last seizures before dying of Perl. Seriously, look around at the other options, they're all better. All of them. I'm so tired of this delusional community. Let Perl be legacy; turn the lights out.

I think Perl 6 has some unique and refreshing features and I'm looking forward to deploying it. You may not like the design of the homepage, however it has tons of good information and that's what matters more.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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post #33

This reminds me of when jQuery had a cartoon ninja on their homepage. Am I seriously looking at a page targeted at grown adults with a talking butterfly on it?

And yet, everybody loves Go.

1. Go-hate isn't hard to find, especially on HN.

2. Liking Go != liking the mascot

3. I think most would agree this is ridiculous: https://www.googlemerchandisestore.com/Google+Redesign/Brand...

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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post #37
post #12

OOC how many people would be interested in a Perl 6 Corporate Look n' Feel type site? Where everything is just designed to be boring and on message for production use in a business setting. Front page has Docker deployment and continuous integration setup steps etc. (that all exists and works FYI) Everything would be muted colours and mostly cloning the style of https://www.haskell.org/ or https://nodejs.org/en/ or e…

I think there's something to this. Whether it's logical or not, a language is partially judged on its web site. The Ruby and Python sites are less whimsical: https://www.ruby-lang.org https://www.python.org I want the language given a chance based on its merits, not dismissed because of a cartoonish site.

This is also interesting that a language would not be only jugged on it's pretty website shell. I mean, if you got a beautiful language, it is logical to create a beautiful packaging for it... But honestly, I am reluctant to these very shinny corporate websites. Languages developed by communities are not companies products, letting it stay out of the corporate philosophy and game with logos, impressive designs and business oriented wills is a good thing: you try the language, read the doc, write some stuff and if you are convinced, you will surely not take care of this kind of logo, it will even become friendly to you.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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One of the problems with Perl6 is an excesive proliferation of cute pets and pet names to learn before to start. A second one is that those names are unrelated and random, without a clear relationship between them or with what they can really do.

Fit your tutorial to the desired age of your audience. If something is a virtual machine just start your tutorial calling it 'our virtual machine'. Explain briefly what is a virtual machine, instead to say that is a butterfly with violet wings or something (not everybody knows what to do with this stuff). If is a compiler, call it compiler and go as quick as possible to the next step of the tutorial before to lose the interest of your audience. Is not 'how is named' or 'how cute', is 'what can you do with it' and 'how to use it with the other pieces' what matters.

If you want to use names, at least try to be consistent with the names and designs. If you want to name something 'rakudo' and want to show your sensitive side, great, name the other thing 'sazanka' or so. Something nice, humble, but useful at the same time. Something that can helps you to make a mental image of the whole picture of this 'paradise' landscape in a couple of seconds.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Larry Wall's discussion on the logo, Camelia ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/perl6/mu/master/misc/camel... ): Discussion Highlights ===================== From: Larry Wall Date: March 24, 2009 10:25 Subject: Re: Logo considerations [...] I think there's a tendency to go way too abstract in most of these proposals. I want something with gut appeal on the order of Tux. In particular I want a logo for Perl 6 that is:…

> You of the masculine persuasion should consider it an opportunity to show off your sensitive side. :)

I might perceive this differently because of my cultural background, but isn't it a bit misandric to claim masculinity as unsensitive?

Tom Cooks

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