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Re: Chris Poole

#41

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>primarily due to seeing the kind of place you get when the barrier for entry is non existent. you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I was 4chan "janitor" (lesser-mod) for 18 months or so and I agree, these sorts of positions really twist your perception of the community you're moderating. When you're buried in reports -- and these are 4chan reports, which means not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc. -- it becomes all…

> you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I honestly don't think the two are even comparable. Moderating a large subreddit on reddit is infinitely harder and more complex than 4chan. Some of the larger subreddits see more pageviews than the entirety of 4chan. Moving beyond that, moderators on 4chan are completely anonymous unless they choose to be known. This isn't the case with reddit. Moderators often have to have a lon…

Does Reddit pay you for moderation? I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay. It's not like they don't have throw around money?

I can take some Reddit, but get tired pretty quick. One joke is funny, but 50 quips just reminds me how I loate humans. (Not loathe--just dissapointed.) Kinda like the feeling I get when I'm on Facebook longer than a few minutes?

They build it, and people came. People opened their mouths, and confirmed all doubt?

Re: Chris Poole

#42
Is this article just saying "running an internet community is hard?" Pat on the back to someone who created the one of the most actively harassing communities online? TL;DR I knew moot?

Re: Chris Poole

#43
I have a lot of respect for Chris for all his dedication. I remember being a bit gobsmacked when I sent in a few bug reports for DrawQuest when it was launched, and in the middle of the night I got an email back from Chris thanking me for the bug reports.

I continued to send in bugs, and he continued to reply to my emails – pretty amazing dedication. When I initially emailed in, I didn't even realize DrawQuest was one of his creations.

Re: Chris Poole

#45

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>primarily due to seeing the kind of place you get when the barrier for entry is non existent. you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I was 4chan "janitor" (lesser-mod) for 18 months or so and I agree, these sorts of positions really twist your perception of the community you're moderating. When you're buried in reports -- and these are 4chan reports, which means not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc. -- it becomes all…

"not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc." (I'm assuming cp means children) "The good news is that I've recently returned to 4chan as a regular, anonymous user, and I'm really enjoying it." I've never visited the site, and really don't want to. So maybe I'm missing something, but why would you want to associate yourself with a place like that? It seems like even spending time there as an anonymous user would change y…

> "The good news is that I've recently returned to 4chan as a regular, anonymous user, and I'm really enjoying it."

> I've never visited the site, and really don't want to. So maybe I'm missing something, but why would you want to associate yourself with a place like that?

> I see people post screenshots on Reddit sometimes and it seems pretty deviant.

As depicted in some screenshots people post on Reddit. (One thing that helps: look at the background of the screenshot. By default, a blue background indicates a "safe for work" board, and that's well-known enough that people sometimes use the term "blue board".) And yeah, a subset of it is, including several entire boards.

4chan features the full gamut of what you could expect from the Internet, or humanity in general. The quote about Usenet and "a herd of performing elephants" applies quite well there. And like the broader Internet and culture in general, the quality of content varies massively.

However, the bet of what 4chan has to offer includes some amazing content, much of it original, and only a small subset of that makes it to the outside world. A huge number of Internet memes start there. People create impressive original art, sometimes drawn on the fly and posted in response to others nearly in real-time. Despite the name "image board", people write and share huge walls of text there too. People tell stories ranging from side-splittingly hilarious to heartwarming. (Yes, really, 4chan can do "heartwarming" on occasion.) And much of the best content gets saved in screenshots, files, and wikis, and re-posted later. (Its transient nature has as much to do with its culture as its anonymity.)

For one of many examples, the tabletop gaming board /tg/ has quite an impressive array of content. People develop campaigns and settings there, run games on the board, design games, produce interesting original writing, post stories of gaming adventures, and otherwise produce an astonishing amount of original content. You can go there if you run a game and you're looking for material or inspiration, or if you just want to laugh at a pile of nerdy jokes and enjoy some interesting stories. And note that /tg/ is considered a "safe for work" board, and the moderators do enforce that.

Also see the TED talk from Christopher Poole ("moot"), which mentions several more interesting stories.

4chan does have a large amount of "background radiation" to ignore, and portions of its culture can be quite toxic. It's not in any way a curated collection of content. But parts of it can be awe-inspiring, useful, and fun.

Re: Chris Poole

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>primarily due to seeing the kind of place you get when the barrier for entry is non existent. you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I was 4chan "janitor" (lesser-mod) for 18 months or so and I agree, these sorts of positions really twist your perception of the community you're moderating. When you're buried in reports -- and these are 4chan reports, which means not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc. -- it becomes all…

"not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc." (I'm assuming cp means children) "The good news is that I've recently returned to 4chan as a regular, anonymous user, and I'm really enjoying it." I've never visited the site, and really don't want to. So maybe I'm missing something, but why would you want to associate yourself with a place like that? It seems like even spending time there as an anonymous user would change y…

Unlike reddit, 4chan is not a popularity contest. There are no likes or upvotes that dictate what you see; everyone in a thread sees the same content. Furthermore, there are no persistent identities, so you have no way of gauging the value of someone's post other than by examining its content. I think this dynamic is what made 4chan such a creative force: the only way for a post to "live" longer than one thread was to make it memetic, remixable, broadly applicable.

What I really like about 4chan nowadays is the pace. When a new episode of my favorite show is out, or when the Super Bowl is on, or when a presidential candidate says something stupid, I know there will be a thread about it. At times, it's almost like we're all in the same room together. Having browsed for 7 years now, it really does feel like home to me.

Re: Chris Poole

#47
post #30

Not surprising. Community creators end up hating their communities. This is one of the reasons I did not put comments in Delicious.

Did you end up hating Delicious? Any thoughts on its current state?

The lack of conversation didn't allow it to become a community. I still miss it.

I don't really use the current one, but have made a few attempts to reach out to the current owners to help out.

Re: Chris Poole

#48

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> you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I honestly don't think the two are even comparable. Moderating a large subreddit on reddit is infinitely harder and more complex than 4chan. Some of the larger subreddits see more pageviews than the entirety of 4chan. Moving beyond that, moderators on 4chan are completely anonymous unless they choose to be known. This isn't the case with reddit. Moderators often have to have a lon…

Does Reddit pay you for moderation? I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay. It's not like they don't have throw around money? I can take some Reddit, but get tired pretty quick. One joke is funny, but 50 quips just reminds me how I loate humans. (Not loathe--just dissapointed.) Kinda like the feeling I get when I'm on Facebook longer than a few minutes? They build it, and people came. People opened t…

They do it for free :^)

Re: Chris Poole

#49
post #3

When I read the title I thought it was about moot joining USV as an EIR or partner.

I had the same thought. I'm a little disappointed this isn't the case, actually.

Ugh. The last thing a smart, creative young person with a soul needs is to be sucked into the VC empty-air universe.

Re: Chris Poole

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>primarily due to seeing the kind of place you get when the barrier for entry is non existent. you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I was 4chan "janitor" (lesser-mod) for 18 months or so and I agree, these sorts of positions really twist your perception of the community you're moderating. When you're buried in reports -- and these are 4chan reports, which means not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc. -- it becomes all…

"not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc." (I'm assuming cp means children) "The good news is that I've recently returned to 4chan as a regular, anonymous user, and I'm really enjoying it." I've never visited the site, and really don't want to. So maybe I'm missing something, but why would you want to associate yourself with a place like that? It seems like even spending time there as an anonymous user would change y…

Apart from the cp, which is very rare as an end user of /b/, I find it entertaining. There's a lot of crap to wade through, but some of the humorous content really is quite funny. 4chan seems to have contributors that really get the chaotic-feeling, disjoint sense of humor - whereas Reddit seems overwhelmed with puns and catchphrases (OK /b/'s obsession with "rolling" (looking at last digits of post number) is just as lame). I enjoy the "deviant" stuff, too, if only to marvel at the strange things people get up (and perhaps off) to. And why not, if it's an interesting experience? The raids are sometimes amazing examples of performance art (and fit the sense of humour rather well).

As another user pointed out, viewing "best of" is probably a more efficient approach, and let's you avoid some of the crap. But there's something enjoyable about being there, in the moment something is happening.

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