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The first dead Unicorn will be Evernote

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Re: The first dead Unicorn will be Evernote

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We tried Evernote for business in our office for around 6 months. The sharing and communication feature-set was really bad. In a shared notebook we ended up with 'conflicted copies' of lots of important notes that really needed to be an authority on things. The 'Work Chat' feature is spectacularly bad and unusable - to the point of comedy. Most of us flipped way to using Google Apps and Keep Notes, which just really…

I'm amazed they still haven't fixed the syncing/conflicted copy issues. We switched to OneNote pretty much right after they Mac/iOS versions came out and the "just works" live collaboration was a breath of fresh air.

Re: The first dead Unicorn will be Evernote

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So what's the alternative to Evernote? The article lists Google Docs, which doesn't really seem equivalent, and OneNote. I'm using OneNote right now to organize planning for a media/writing project, and the experience leaves a lot to be desired. The writing interface in particular is clunky, in the web client and on Android -- on my phone, I have to pop open a menu and then a drawer just to switch bold text on or off…

It's kind of strange to me that you think OneNote is clunky. I might have agreed with you about the iOS app six months ago but it has improved quite a bit since then.

OneNote was great before but for me on Mac and iOS it seems like the basic text editing has gotten clunkier and buggier (most of the issues revolve around mixing roman and CJK languages I think)

Re: The first dead Unicorn will be Evernote

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What on earth is this trying to say? Evernote, located in Redwood City, CA, and directly on the 101, is a bit north of the tech companies that dot Silicon Valley and far south of those that have headquarters in San Francisco. In other words, Evernote isn't exactly on its own in terms of tech-oriented neighbors that it competes with for talent.

They should have just said, "just South of Oracle" .

And this is a problem because devs in SF don't want to commute south and devs in the Valley don't want to commute north? I really doubt this is in the top 10 reasons Evernote is (apparently) failing.

Re: The first dead Unicorn will be Evernote

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Used to use Evernote 10+ times per day. Now it's a few times a week at most. Seems the product has stayed stagnant for a while now.

I'm using it daily for several years now and I don't mind it doesn't have tons of new features. I don't need tons of new features, I need it doing what I use it for - organizing and storing random bits of information.

Re: The first dead Unicorn will be Evernote

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I was a heavy evernote user a few years ago and then migrated to OneNote. I think one of the challenges that is causing evernote users to drain off is as its organization model for notes is broken unless you are highly disciplined in using tags. As your usage grows the product becomes worse for you for non-search navigation and discovery. MS OneNote on the other hand feels like an upgrade from evernote in terms of it…

Last time I tried OneNote, its text editor allows click and type anywhere. I found this behavior is weird and there is no option to turn it off. I know it makes sense if we use touch pen, but not for typing with keyboard.

Re: The first dead Unicorn will be Evernote

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Fab is already a "dead unicorn" in most people's eyes. During their Series D in 2013, they had a post-val of 1.17B, only to be acquired earlier this year for 15M. I think the biggest problem these current VC-backed unicorns will face is when "venture tourism" comes to an end sometime in the future and all this available cash becomes harder and harder to raise as mutual/hedge funds back slowly away from the private ma…

Hey, author here. You're right, there's some question about Fab, and I could have added that to the post.

I tend to believe the later story, which was that they didn't get there, but didn't mind all the press thinking they did and it was just never corrected (i.e. this story(1) in Fortune cites a valuation that happens to be under $900M).

Either way, there's definitely no way to know for sure, and I've seen it left off of plenty of 'unicorn' lists.

(1) http://fortune.com/2015/01/22/fab-billion-dollar-valuation/

Re: The first dead Unicorn will be Evernote

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What on earth is this trying to say? Evernote, located in Redwood City, CA, and directly on the 101, is a bit north of the tech companies that dot Silicon Valley and far south of those that have headquarters in San Francisco. In other words, Evernote isn't exactly on its own in terms of tech-oriented neighbors that it competes with for talent.

Hey, author here. You're right, this could be more clear. The takeaway is supposed to be that it's not as though HQ is in Cleveland or Cincinnati where there's a lot less competition for tech jobs - but I can see how the wording is weird!

Re: The first dead Unicorn will be Evernote

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With the risk of sounding bitter, I am truly not, I always wondered why does it take close to 300M and 400 employees according to Crunchbase to build a note taking app, even at scale.

The money was not raised to build a note taking app, they had already done that (in the US at least). Much of it was for international expansion (which they've done, particularly in China) and new things. Some of those new things (like Work Chat) were built and haven't seem to have gone anywhere. But just because a product seems DOA doesn't mean it was dumb to try. Slack raised $250mm and locked it away for a rainy day, I'm sure Evernote did much of the same.
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