From "About me" My name is Muazzam Ali Kazmi, a hobbyist programmer from Shahpur, Layyah, Punjab, Pakistan. I am a student of grade-11 and I started programming about 4 years ago. I am developing the OS since 7 September 2014. My interests include religion(s), philosophy, operating systems, virtual machines, simulating a universe in the computers, compilers, theoretical computer science, artificial intelligence, math…
ExDOS is developed by Omar, “almost 14 years old”
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Re: ExDOS is developed by Omar, “almost 14 years old”
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but it's impressive nonetheless. A 14 year old kid is building an operating system. What was I doing at 14? I was not building operating systems, thats for sure.
That's not the point... by bringing up age as an important factor, you are then discounting the work. Personally, I would rather have my work valued the same way if I was 14 or 64... In the case of my current work, I would say I have put the same amount of time into learning and working as people twice my age (Though I guess that means I haven't had much of a life otherwsise, heh). Regardless of my age, I think my wo…
> That's not the point... by bringing up age as an important factor, you are then discounting the work.
I see it rather the opposite. By mentioning his age the feat becomes all the more impressive.
Re: ExDOS is developed by Omar, “almost 14 years old”
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but it's impressive nonetheless. A 14 year old kid is building an operating system. What was I doing at 14? I was not building operating systems, thats for sure.
That's not the point... by bringing up age as an important factor, you are then discounting the work. Personally, I would rather have my work valued the same way if I was 14 or 64... In the case of my current work, I would say I have put the same amount of time into learning and working as people twice my age (Though I guess that means I haven't had much of a life otherwsise, heh). Regardless of my age, I think my wo…
> That's not the point... by bringing up age as an important factor, you are then discounting the work.
I think this isnt valid in this case - the work is more impressive exactly because it is being done by someone that young, and this is so huge accomplishment because it is so much easier and more common thing to achieve at later age. I can't see his work being discounted here.
> Regardless of my age, I think my work should stand on its own against anything that currently exists.
I also can't agree with that - if you have 30 years of programming experience and what you're making are hello-world type of programs (that's what I was doing around 14) then you are obviously underperforming and simply doing bad. However, at 14 the very same work was already outstanding when compared to my friends at the same age, because most of what they were doing was running around on the yard. And none of them ended up as a professional runner (but still, they might be happier today than me, being professional hello-world engineer ;)
Re: ExDOS is developed by Omar, “almost 14 years old”
#44This is anecdotal, but when I was his age and getting into the "real" tech world (and getting my work recognized), I really disliked my age being made a big deal. A big influence on my own view (and I think many others in this community) of being a "hacker" was Steven Levy's "Hacker Ethic", which specifically said: "Hackers should be judged by their hacking, not criteria such as degrees, age, race, sex, or position"…
Sure, but it's impressive nonetheless. A 14 year old kid is building an operating system. What was I doing at 14? I was not building operating systems, thats for sure.
It's not that you couldn't have, it's that you didn't.
Although when I was 14, the references to do this were not readily available. With all credit to "Omar", it's also credit to how available and intelligible our reference material is for techniques like this.
Honestly though, writing OSs? People make it magic. In reality, they're just programs. It's fun. There are even really smooth (albeit way outdated) tutorials like NachOS out there (https://www.ida.liu.se/~TDDI12/material/begguide/)
Re: ExDOS is developed by Omar, “almost 14 years old”
#45Muzzam's site: http://alotware.hol.es "Q: Why did you choose Assembly? A: It is easy, simple, and the language of real programmers." Will he still believe this when he's older? I hope so. Because it is the truth.
But don't real programmers use a magnetized needle and a steady hand?
Somebodies got to do the ASM, write the operating systems and compilers, and those guys are more hardcore than I!
Re: ExDOS is developed by Omar, “almost 14 years old”
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
No joke: I strongly believe that "real programmers" do indeed write in assembler. Not x86 assembler, mind you. Rather, "real programmers" first compose an abstract machine semantics for the solution domain, create an instantiation of those semantics in the form of a virtual machine on some host architecture, and then express the solution in an assembler language targeting the abstract machine semantics. (See, for exa…
I like to use python
The context appears to be low level programming.
Re: ExDOS is developed by Omar, “almost 14 years old”
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Re: ExDOS is developed by Omar, “almost 14 years old”
#48The screenshots link is dead at the time I write this (5h after submission).
Re: ExDOS is developed by Omar, “almost 14 years old”
#49The server hosting his site went down. Here's the github link: https://github.com/omarrx024/exdos
Re: ExDOS is developed by Omar, “almost 14 years old”
#50This is anecdotal, but when I was his age and getting into the "real" tech world (and getting my work recognized), I really disliked my age being made a big deal. A big influence on my own view (and I think many others in this community) of being a "hacker" was Steven Levy's "Hacker Ethic", which specifically said: "Hackers should be judged by their hacking, not criteria such as degrees, age, race, sex, or position"…
Maybe we should get rid of weight classes for boxing, women's leagues for sports, and anything that acknowledges accomplishments for anyone that is not 100% objectively the best on the planet.