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Re: Nexus 5

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Post by cptskippy »

josteink wrote: post #371
sghill wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough, I'd be reacting similarly I'm sure. I get that two years is too short, but how long do you expect a device like this to be supported? I think I recall three major updates for my original iPhone, but by the last update it was almost unusably slow.

Google changed versioning schema when rolling out Jelly Bean. On Gingerbread, the various minor updates was versioned 2.3.3, 2.3.4, etc. On Jelly Bean, they were version 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3, but they were all still minor updates. When you look at it that way, the Galaxy Nexus received one major update and that was it. That's less than most "flagship" consumer devices sold, which typically receive at least two. As for wh…

As for what I expect from a Nexus

What you expect and what is promised are not the same, in this case they are very different.

I demand a minimum of two, but find it reasonable to expect three.

So now it's an unrealistic demand you're making, and not their failure to keep a promise (they never actually made)?

From this, it seems clear that Google has completely lost its commitment to the Nexus-brand

Regardless of the circumstances, this is an absurd claim.

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by ZoFreX »

phaus wrote: post #208
eikenberry wrote: post #180

Any chance of a Nexus 3 for people who don't want a tablet in their pocket?

I'd really love it if there were a 4" or 4.3" phone that still featured high-end specs. Unfortunately most of the "mini" devices seem to be intentionally bad in comparison to the flagships. If they weren't so expensive, I'd rather have the much smaller iPhone 5S than a Nexus 5, but the price is so cheap I can't really justify going with Apple. There was a time when I was on-board with the large-screen phone trend, bu…

I had a play with a whole bunch of small to mid-size Android phones and concluded that the S4 mini is quite nice. It isn't as anemic relative to the S4 as the S3 mini was to the S3, and it looks and feels good. It's about the size of a Galaxy S2 for reference (seems weird that that's now a small to medium size phone, when I owned one I hated how big it was).

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by unsignedint »

infinotize wrote: post #154

In retrospect of placing an order, I'm somewhat let down by lack of removable battery, if only that it's the only way I know for sure the device is OFF and not offering up my location for data mining by advertisers and spy agencies.

Lack of removable battery is the reason I didn't press the order button, at least as an impulse buy.

I mean, I might end up buying it later should there be no alternative, but at least, it gave me incentive to look around. I'm not so much of battery swapper (or remover) but not being able to replace battery when it can't hold a charge is just ridiculous to me.

I really don't understand the trend of non-removable batteries. I guess people (or the designer, maybe) want a thinner phone, but no one seems to care about practicality any more... (and I have bumper on my Galaxy Nexus, just because I can't comfortably hold it without fear of dropping as it is being too thin...)

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by r00fus »

Zenst wrote: post #386
r00fus wrote: post #334

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Did you account for VAT? That 20% pushes your £220 up to £264 ... Only 35 quid difference.

No I did not, you are correct that could and would make a difference. Though no mention was made that stoof out too me regarding VAT. Indeed do the $ prices include any form of TAX/VAT/sales TAX?

No, they do not. It's a form of price advertising deception that I'm glad is outlawed in most of Europe.

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by [deleted] »

anologwintermut wrote: post #131
apawloski wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in a major city (so coverage is good on most networks), but T-Mobile has a $30/mo, pay-as-you-go plan for unlimited text/data and 100 minutes of talk (which isn't a problem if you use something like Google Voice).

Whats the preferred way to get google voice working on android ?

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Re: Nexus 5

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Post by [deleted] »

anologwintermut wrote: post #131
apawloski wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in a major city (so coverage is good on most networks), but T-Mobile has a $30/mo, pay-as-you-go plan for unlimited text/data and 100 minutes of talk (which isn't a problem if you use something like Google Voice).

Whats the preferred way to get google voice working on android ?

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Re: Nexus 5

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Post by [deleted] »

anologwintermut wrote: post #131
apawloski wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in a major city (so coverage is good on most networks), but T-Mobile has a $30/mo, pay-as-you-go plan for unlimited text/data and 100 minutes of talk (which isn't a problem if you use something like Google Voice).

Whats the preferred way to get google voice working on android ?

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Re: Nexus 5

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Post by mieses »

anologwintermut wrote: post #131
apawloski wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in a major city (so coverage is good on most networks), but T-Mobile has a $30/mo, pay-as-you-go plan for unlimited text/data and 100 minutes of talk (which isn't a problem if you use something like Google Voice).

Whats the preferred way to get google voice working on android ?

The GrooveIP app allows VoIP calling through Google Voice on Android.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=e...

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by AjithAntony »

Zikes wrote: post #181
apawloski wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in a major city (so coverage is good on most networks), but T-Mobile has a $30/mo, pay-as-you-go plan for unlimited text/data and 100 minutes of talk (which isn't a problem if you use something like Google Voice).

I'm on this plan and the biggest issue I've run into is that while the data is "unlimited", after 5GB it's throttled to frustratingly slow 2G speeds. I was under the impression it was 5GB 4G then 3G from there, but it is not so.

That's right. "High speed" is 3G and "4g"

Re: Nexus 5

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Post by lhl »

cptskippy wrote: post #378
josteink wrote: post #360

I'd be a lot more interested in this if Google didn't just shutter everyone's trust in the Nexus program by obsoleting the Galaxy Nexus, a phone less than two years old. It only got one major OS upgrade since launch, which is less than most regular Samsung phones (which typically receive two). Basically, Google's flagship phone wtih 1GB RAM just got dumped on. By Google. As they launch Android 4.4 which "should run g…

I doubt anyone at Google was thrilled about dropping support but I suspect this was an unavoidable conclusion they came to based on the loss of support from the supplier of the CPU for the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy Nexus uses a TI OMAP CPU and last September(2012) TI announced it was stopping development of OMAP solutions and shifting it's focus to embedded processors. In November it then laid off 1700 people in the O…

While TI did restructure on the OMAP side, the parts are still active, not EOL'd: http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/omap-applications-processors/omap-...

The OMAP dev kernel is also quite active: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-oma... Look at the checkins in just the past few days.

Here's what it looks like on the Google side as a contrast: https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/omap

While TI announced they wouldn't be pursuing new smartphone/tablet clients, they also announced they'd continue supporting existing customers. It's worth noting that Google is an active client - the Google Glasses they released this year are running w/ OMAP 4430s (and you can see the glass kernel branches are active on the Android side).

Not to put too fine a point on it, but your post is completely unsupported by the (easily discoverable - it only took like 2min of searching to dig the above up) facts.

I doubt that anyone from Google is going to step forward with their reasoning (although, in the spirit of things, I'd be happy to be proven wrong), but I'd assume it was a pretty straight forward cost/benefit analysis. There aren't going to be new OMAP-based phones/tablets, and the number of active GNex's running stock is probably miniscule (tens of thousands?), so it just wasn't worth doing.

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