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Re: This is a web page

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Post by adregan »

calinet6 wrote: post #270
tl wrote: post #179

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This is the full stylesheet: body { font-size:18px; } .wrapper { max-width: 600px; margin:0 auto; } I feel like you're being a little unfair here.

That's quite beautiful for such a small stylesheet. I once almost started a web site called SimpleStyleSheets that had that goal -- maximum of 4 lines of CSS, no ugly compression, maximum of 120 characters per line. And see how good you can make a page of simple semantic content look. I should do it now -- it'd be a good exercise in this day of complex designs and bloated styles.

It could even be a little smaller if the max-width and margin were placed on the body tag. You don't even need the wrapper!

Re: This is a web page

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Post by pge »

makeset wrote: post #273
teh_klev wrote: post #261

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What is hipster about that? Your statement makes no sense. I'm 46 and started using the "internet" in 1992 - usenet, gopher, FTP et al. Then came the World Wide Web". Altavista was really all there was before google, why is that "hipster"? That's like saying you were a hipster for using horse and carriage before Henry Ford started mass producing cars. If anything being an early adopter of Google seems more "hipster"…

Between Altavista and Google, alltheweb.com (FAST Search) also had their day. I was in charge of a major web portal around 2001, and we were contracting out site search queries to FAST. One day I got a call from a new company named Google. The guy said he could give me a better price than FAST. I asked what price. He said, "Any price."

Dont forget northern light. It was a great search engine targeted at researchers and academics that grouped results in folders of topic areas. They made the unfortunate business decision to transition to a paid service right as google was becoming popular.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by uxwtf »

> At its heart, web design should be about words.

The Web is for sure a place to communicate with words. But can you imagine what will it look like if every web page will have only words? I can't. I wouldn't enjoy it anymore.

As a UI designer, I always try to create an interface as intuitive as possible, and sometimes words do work better than icons and images. But sometimes it will break the concept. Let's take Airbnb as an example.

If we'll remove all those attractive images and UI elements, which create its particular universe, Airbnb will look like Craigslist (though some apts have pictures today). And it won't be fun!

Both words and images play important roles in the web design. The role of the words is to communicate an idea. The role of the images is to illustrate the idea and to bring an additional value to the content.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by cytokine_storm »

derleth wrote: post #352
hobs wrote: post #331

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September What should we do about it?

Implying we should 'fix' Eternal September is pretty close to implying we should keep important technology out of the hands of those the current users deem unworthy. That prevents both spam and the Arab Spring, both 4chan and Wikileaks. Keeping the Internet as it was prior to 1991, when commercial access was first allowed, means keeping it a small, controlled entity with obvious choke points that make it trivial to c…

I agree with your argument. But I think the internet's strongest trait is not necessarily revolutionary changes (wikileaks and arab spring). The things that have been built on the internet have been incredible. Think of crowdsourced projects like wikipedia and how ridiculously trivial it is for a scientist (or someone like me; a student in a lab) to access information or search for experimental data (genes are the tip of the iceberg here).

I don't want to belittle the Arab Spring, but the NCBI database and Wikipedia have arguably had an even larger impact on society than social networking's capability for kickstarting revolution. It's just slower and less obvious.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by tsahyt »

MichaelGG wrote: post #264
strickjb9 wrote: post #207

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No, you are thinking of TCP. This is an article about HTTP. (in terms of bandwidth, HTTP ⊆ TCP)

Pretty sure YouTube is transported over HTTP. Not sure about Netflix but I wouldn't be surprised. HTTP has become a generic TCP wrapper for the common request->response pattern.

It is not transported over HTTP, although it does make use of HTTP at the Application Layer. It is transported over TCP, which is a Transport Layer protocol.

Yes, I'm being pedantic and annyoing.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by eterm »

StavrosK wrote: post #380
joe24pack wrote: post #260

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Hipster huh? Well what about Lycos, remember that search engine?

Remember the search aggregators, like Magellan (maybe Columbus? Something like that) that searched X different engines and aggregated the results in a desktop app for you to use? Then I found Google, and I never used anything else again.

That was Copernic. (After Copernicus) I remember using it and there was a list of perhaps 20 engines. I remember the first to return (like, would return in 1 second not 30 seconds for the rest) was google.

Every single time, google was the first back. It wasn't always ranked the top result back then, but it was fast.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by StavrosK »

eterm wrote: post #397
StavrosK wrote: post #380

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Remember the search aggregators, like Magellan (maybe Columbus? Something like that) that searched X different engines and aggregated the results in a desktop app for you to use? Then I found Google, and I never used anything else again.

That was Copernic. (After Copernicus) I remember using it and there was a list of perhaps 20 engines. I remember the first to return (like, would return in 1 second not 30 seconds for the rest) was google. Every single time, google was the first back. It wasn't always ranked the top result back then, but it was fast.

Yes! That's it. Yeah, Google came and blew everything else out of the water. I remember searching for an ocx file for something that wouldn't run, and everything kept returning some spam sites. I somehow stumbled upon Google, after some recommendation, and tried it, and the first result was a legitimate download of the actual file.

It's not hard to see why everyone switched to it.

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