Isn't Andon Labs the SF startup that burned a bunch of money having AI run a shop into the ground?
Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
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#392Correct me if I'm wrong but a human will be able to cut through the noise with quirky advertising, new/novel distribution methods, etc. Most of the bottleneck in business isn't building the things or sourcing, it's mostly advertising/sales. These specifically require doing something unique or interesting. Sure, maybe LLMs can help with fulfillment or operations, but distribution still remains the hard part.
>> Most of the bottleneck in business isn't building the things or sourcing, it's mostly advertising/sales. That may also change with llms - they can help the buyers compare every product available, and find the best.
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#393Correct me if I'm wrong but a human will be able to cut through the noise with quirky advertising, new/novel distribution methods, etc. Most of the bottleneck in business isn't building the things or sourcing, it's mostly advertising/sales. These specifically require doing something unique or interesting. Sure, maybe LLMs can help with fulfillment or operations, but distribution still remains the hard part.
skills/advertising_and_sales.md skills/novel_distribution.md skills/unique_and_interesting.md Naive to think you can't reduce these to instructions.
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#394Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> Most of the bottleneck in business isn't building the things or sourcing, it's mostly advertising/sales. That may also change with llms - they can help the buyers compare every product available, and find the best.
Is the LLM going to order all the shower caps produced by Chinese factories and try them out?
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#395> The thing we considered the most troubling was whether AIs could autonomously acquire resources by running businesses. So we decided to build that to validate and confirm our fears.
"Wow, that's terrifying! So exciting!"
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
It can create more shit than humans could ever consume I’m sure, but then why? What new ventures/opportunities is it opening for most humans?
Great point, the shit is going to get more pervasive for sure. But also, there is the enablement of new fields of original and creative endeavor: I think we can already see this in some of the brilliant and useful apps being made, often by solo 'teams'. I don't want to play down the harmful effects AI, but the flip side is that the opportunities for original ideas are many and varied. Paul Graham wrote about taste be…
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#397wasted effort.
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#398Earlier quoted context omitted.
skills/advertising_and_sales.md skills/novel_distribution.md skills/unique_and_interesting.md Naive to think you can't reduce these to instructions.
Do you really think AI can automate distribution, marketing, sales? That's just spam.
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#399There was surprisingly little information on how they actually do this, but we run our business with a large number of, what we call "AI employees" in addition to regular employees, and they act in interesting ways. We've been building out orchestration tools to handle this, and we'll probably do a write-up or blog post on it soon. May even open source some of it. The preview is that the problem with most agents (and…
Interesting discovery.
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#400There's just no world where this actually results in a stable, respected business. It will be death by a thousand bad impressions, mistakes and oversights. Yeah, you can automate everything. That doesn't mean it's being done well.
That's not to say this might not be something feasible in 2-3 years from now, but we're still a long ways away.