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So what's the ratio for malls? Or strip malls? Or metal refineries? Or auto plants? Or giant office buildings?
You’re the one that came up with a tanning salon being a high ratio of resource usage to local utility.
It’s reaching the point of absurdity in my area. People are bringing “All data centers are flammable” signs to city meetings. A plot of land that’s already zoned for the heaviest of industrial activities, is across the street from a dump, 3 miles from an airport, 16 miles from a nuclear generating station, and in a region with good climate, and no water crunch is a pretty good place for a data center. Facts don’t mat…
One refrigerator sized rack at a datacenter takes as much power as 150 homes, and they’re using it for technology that disempowers and annoys people. It’s pretty obviously offensive. All for rezoning golf courses too
Are you counting the externalized data center use of the people in that house?
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There is a fundamental difference between those technologies and generative AI. I ask again: what stops companies from creating literally dozens, hundreds or thousands of copies of any creative work you publish? Why shouldn't they create AI artists that copy small artists in a "legally distinct" manner, and at a volume that drowns them out? As these models get better and better, the only limiting factor is the availa…
copyright law stops illegal copying you are worrying about a hypothetical without precedent. all past evidence is that new creative tools are good
There is no precedent because the technology hasn't existed before. There's tons upon tons of precedent for companies plagiarizing the works of small artists, and the justice system sides with large companies far more often than small artists. But none of the technologies you've listed allowed companies to automatically plagiarize the works of small artists, whereas LLMs do allow this.
It's not really about AI, data centers, water consumption, or energy. Those are real issues. But I don't think that's what gets people so riled up. Imagine if every AI company was a small local business run by middle class folks and there were thousands of these little companies. The total amount of data centers, water, and energy consumption is the same. I don't think people would be anywhere near as mad then. There…
My mother is fully aboard the "a datacenter ruins the local town" train. She is looking to sell her small farm and move, but she's literally asking AI if a datacenter is planned in every town she's looking into moving to.
Not "is there a datacenter within 500 feet of the home I'm looking to buy" - but anywhere in the county. She just does not have an inkling of the local impact but hoovers up all the doomerism on the topic.
She also doesn't like them due to "billionaires" but the idea that a datacenter makes the surrounding 10 mile area unlivable is front and center. The irresponsible reporting and social media environment has made her terrified of what amounts to glorified warehouses being located a few miles down the road she otherwise never would have known existed. No amount of showing her what they really are (having worked in datacenters my whole adult life) can change her mind.
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in a lot of cases, the leaders of the communities are not following the rules. (see the ppl talking about ndas and such) in any case, this isn't like "oh we don't want to build an apartment building because it might drop the value of a single family home halfway across town." it isn't even like "we want to build this train line which will have some negative externalities but the positive effects (and externalities) a…
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What the comments fail to point out (and I haven't read the article to find out if they address it): the number of data centers being built is based on speculation of need and is a dramatic over-estimate. It has to be. What, other than AI has happened in the last few years that would warrant that many new data centers? How do they know there will be customers for that capacity? There will not be advances in algorithm…
It doesn’t “has to be”. You’re speculating just as much.
| Year | Capacity (GW) | Construction Spending |
| 2015 | 0.2 – 0.3 GW | $1.8 Billion |
| 2016 | 0.3 – 0.4 GW | $2.2 Billion |
| 2017 | 0.4 – 0.5 GW | $3.1 Billion |
| 2018 | 0.5 – 0.6 GW | $4.5 Billion |
| 2019 | 0.6 – 0.7 GW | $6.2 Billion |
| 2020 | 0.8 – 1.0 GW | $8.0 Billion |
| 2021 | 1.2 – 1.5 GW | $10.0 Billion |
| 2022 | 2.0 – 2.5 GW | $15.0 Billion |
| 2023 | 3.5 – 4.0 GW | $20.0 Billion |
| 2024 | 6.4 GW | $35.0 Billion |
| 2025 | 8.5 GW | $46.0 Billion |
| 2026 | 13.6 GW | $50.7 Billion |
There is absolutely no way that increase was planned due to precisely planned for capacity. It's speculation.
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in a lot of cases, the leaders of the communities are not following the rules. (see the ppl talking about ndas and such) in any case, this isn't like "oh we don't want to build an apartment building because it might drop the value of a single family home halfway across town." it isn't even like "we want to build this train line which will have some negative externalities but the positive effects (and externalities) a…
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And create a lot more pollution while generating much, much less in property tax revenue.
You mean the other businesses (not the DCs) generate more pollution and don't bring in less property tax revenue? Pollution, ok, regular industry generates more. But property tax revenue? Why would DCs provide more property tax revenue?
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Thank you for volunteering to have a data center built in your neighborhood!