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Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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This is fair for some reasonable time window after purchase. But I think it's okay for things to have a lifespan even if they cost money.

No. It's not a physical good that is subject to wear and tear. There is no excuse for a single player game to have a lifespan because it has some pointless online verification component.

I think it should be legal to sell something with a pointless online verification component.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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This is fair for some reasonable time window after purchase. But I think it's okay for things to have a lifespan even if they cost money.

As long as the life span is clearly spelled out when you purchase, so you know that you are actually buying a 10 year subscription, and not a game.

This would be a much preferable law to the one actually proposed.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Yes you should!

Give me one good reason why.

Because I think it's good for software developers and consumers for people to have the flexibility to sell something that depends on online services which may become unavailable at some point in the future. This is more valuable than requiring indefinite support, public pluggable backends, or required open sourcing or backend redistribution, which imposes onerous technical or business limitations for an extremely minor consumer benefit all things considered.

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Ironically my pirated copy of Office Mac will work perpetually. Arrr for the win.

If your pirated copy is using "serializer", you're actually using the official Microsoft's way of volume-activating Office, you just obtained it in a yarr-harr-harr way. So it will brick just like official copies would. We need an actual crack that would patch out the license verification code or at least make it ignore the expiration date or at least make it think it's Jan 1st, 2026 for the whole eternity.

Updater service has been disabled since day 1.

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Are you talking about the LO WASM thingy? ( https://wasm-test.libreoffice.org/ ) I have recently tried to use it, but couldn't find a way to open files from local computer in it. It showed me a fake filesystem and dragging and dropping files also didn't work. I have not used another web browser LO thing, I think. If you are talking about another thing, do you have demo site/link? > Perhaps you meant: "View -> Toolbar…

Haven't spent much time with cloud offerings, and so ymmv with these options. =3 https://en.libre-office.fr/article.php/free-online-libreoffi... https://www.collaboraonline.com/ https://www.offidocs.com/ Drag and drop will depend on browser specific security policy. =3 https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online

What's it with the weird `=3` after your sentences?

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Haven't spent much time with cloud offerings, and so ymmv with these options. =3 https://en.libre-office.fr/article.php/free-online-libreoffi... https://www.collaboraonline.com/ https://www.offidocs.com/ Drag and drop will depend on browser specific security policy. =3 https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online

What's it with the weird `=3` after your sentences?

Don't worry about it =3

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You didn't start using libreoffice.org like 15 years ago?

I did. SunOffice, then OpenOffice, then LibreOffice. It still isn't very good, though.

Recent year or two LibreOffice has improved greatly as far as the UX goes and I haven't had to use Word/Excel in decades. When I have to use it for work I use the online app and office online apps are also garbage, especially compared to Google Docs / Sheets stability and performance.

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If you consider that profit is a function of price and cost, and price is a function of scarcity (i.e. demand relative to supply), then over time, logic dictates that a strategy of profit maximization will work to create scarcity as soon as the profit curve plateaus. In economic orthodoxy, the only defense against this is the hope that there is more than one supplier and that they will remain adversarial, which is no…

This is a rather strong analysis. And especially the point on behaviour change once market growth plateaus was new to me. Thanks! I do want to nitpick on “unregulated free markets”. Because it’s almost an oxymoron. At least if one wants to rely on the theorems that prove free markets are best. Those theorems assume a bit more than just a lack of regulation. They assume no information imbalance between parties. No way…

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Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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post #241

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If you consider that profit is a function of price and cost, and price is a function of scarcity (i.e. demand relative to supply), then over time, logic dictates that a strategy of profit maximization will work to create scarcity as soon as the profit curve plateaus. In economic orthodoxy, the only defense against this is the hope that there is more than one supplier and that they will remain adversarial, which is no…

This is a rather strong analysis. And especially the point on behaviour change once market growth plateaus was new to me. Thanks! I do want to nitpick on “unregulated free markets”. Because it’s almost an oxymoron. At least if one wants to rely on the theorems that prove free markets are best. Those theorems assume a bit more than just a lack of regulation. They assume no information imbalance between parties. No way…

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Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Techically, the OS should be able to isolate an application -- stop it being modified, and put it into 'Groundhog day' mode (at midnight, the date seen by the application rolls back to the previous day). This would 'keep' Office for Mac, won't it? The only loss would be the smart tag and functions that insert or refer to the current date in Word or Excel documents.
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