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Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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It's on the same level as giving someone like, a box of chapsticks you picked up at Walgreens on the way over for Christmas dinner. No effort or thought, not really worth anyone's time, the giftee's or the gifter's.

That's one perspective. I would love so much to go back and revisit a birthday with my mom and be gifted a framed pic of my dog and I in matching outfits

Sorry for your loss :(

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Can someone in this thread who says “the kids must be wrong” give an actual optimistic case for AI? Because as far as I understand it, the “optimist” case for AI is that LLMs become God and wipe out human life as we know it entirely, and replace it with a transcendent post-human intelligence. And in the meantime, we’ll have a permanent underclass that will be kept alive on some kind of subsistence UBI. That seems to…

Well.....there is the 'lump of labor' fallacy that states that there is a fixed amount of work to be done in the economy. There is also the thought that a super intelligent AI would go the route of the Buddha having run all simulations under the virtual Bodhi tree and become benevolent. But most people think its going to be the Terminator so.......

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

#393

Can someone in this thread who says “the kids must be wrong” give an actual optimistic case for AI? Because as far as I understand it, the “optimist” case for AI is that LLMs become God and wipe out human life as we know it entirely, and replace it with a transcendent post-human intelligence. And in the meantime, we’ll have a permanent underclass that will be kept alive on some kind of subsistence UBI. That seems to…

Sure. The machine gods are benevolent gods who care deeply for their creator-species. We are freed from labour and troubles into a paradise, to eat peaches and cream and make love under the sun. Rich or poor, we'll all be emperors of our domain, free to do as we please. Our lives keep getting better and better with technological progress, at least in the scope of our social-capitalist system. They will only get bette…

I like this version. Never understood the assumption that it all had to go the route of Terminator.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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For college graduates, LLM tech is an existential threat to their livelihoods by making it so much harder to start a career without connections or pedigree.

If no one is hiring, connections or pedigree need to get extraordinarily elite before you can leverage them to get an entry-level software developer job.

Exactly! Thats a complimentary problem for new grads

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

#395

Can someone in this thread who says “the kids must be wrong” give an actual optimistic case for AI? Because as far as I understand it, the “optimist” case for AI is that LLMs become God and wipe out human life as we know it entirely, and replace it with a transcendent post-human intelligence. And in the meantime, we’ll have a permanent underclass that will be kept alive on some kind of subsistence UBI. That seems to…

To everyone replying here: if you think that the owners of the machines will have any incentive to keep you alive once they no longer need you, or your reading of history is that kings and capitalists have ever willingly made concessions to their power out of benevolence, you are going to have a bad time.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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I live in San Francisco, and my personal sample of “normal people” think AI generated imagery looks like shit, abhor the proliferation of slop, and are doing their best to avoid this stuff at all costs.

You can prompt up some really cool commercial-grade art within the limitations of the models. Getting more precision and consistency in the images requires additional technical configuration and actual artistic skill such that it more resembles using Photoshop and similar software. But what can be done with prompting is a lot more impressive than what can be done with rudimentary Photoshop skills and a big photo libr…

yea but the whole point is that it is not art... never will be

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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> “If you’d let me make this point, please —” Schmidt said amid boos. “The point I’d like to make is choose a diversity of perspectives, including the perspective of the immigrant who has so often been the person who came to this country and made it better. America is at its best when we are the country that ambitious people want to come to. Let us not lose that.” How does that tie in? You have to like AI because of…

Actual generous interpretation: The adaptation required as workplaces adopt AI is the same as the ones immigrants have to go through in a new country. There's new modes of thinking, new workflows and an expanded surface of responsibility. Those that expect an easy definable role they can plug themselves into, to get the comfortable jobs (tm) of yesterday will not find those readily. They are there though, they just l…

That's a pretty good steelman.

I do think there's a gestalt (esp. among younger folks) of "AI is bad", to put it bluntly. An anecdote I saw today was:

parent: we're having dinosaur meat for dinner tonight.

kid: oh, that's just AI.

(i.e. "that's made-up" or "that's silly" or "that's just lies") -- none of which are a positive sentiment)

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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I think his train of thought is "young graduates generally aren't anti-immigration, so if I insinuate they're anti-immigration if they disagree with me they will be convinced by my argument". I don't think we need to read much more than that into it.

He's just trying to meet the graduates at their intellectual level, since the graduates' boos operate at about the same level of depth.

What would a crowds more sophisticated, intellectual, form of answer be?

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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post #399

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He's just trying to meet the graduates at their intellectual level, since the graduates' boos operate at about the same level of depth.

What would a crowds more sophisticated, intellectual, form of answer be?

A hearty "fuck off" I would suppose?
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