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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by grey-area »

pixel_popping wrote: post #380
grey-area wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently Cloudflare have decided they'll sell to the agents instead.

Exactly, because they understood that a ton of businesses will be entirely managed without humans and they are right .

We'll see how this shakes out - to me it is more reminiscent of the boom in bitcoin and associated shitcoins a few years ago, where boosters thought they were going to take over finance and replace our financial institutions in a tech revolution involving NFTs, apps built on blockchain and all money moving to blockchains and everyone not accepting that a revolution was taking place was not going to make it.

That didn't play out quite how the cheerleaders expected (though the value of Bitcoin at least is still high, NFTs and all the actual use-cases for Bitcoin fell through).

I suspect we'll see something similar for LLMs, frankly they're nowhere near good enough for unsupervised use, and if you think they are, good luck to you in building a business on them.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by mpeg »

7thpower wrote: post #366
mpeg wrote: post #272

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Huh? Haha I swear I’m not a sockpuppet or getting paid by cloudflare (I wish!) I just like their products

No I am genuinely curious :)

On the tooling I've made? Feel free to ask here or via email, the Salesforce one was for a fairly large (50k+ employees) company that uses it very extensively but as it often happens they're stuck with a ton of legacy crap. They have some of the AI tooling from SFDC but barely use it (lack of training, or interest) so this solves their immediate problem.

I'm very keen to use their new dynamic workflows (cf's durable execution engine) which would let agents write workflow steps, that way my users can ask an agent to do stuff like "run this report daily and email it to me" and it can work with minimal setup (very basic example, but you get the idea)

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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mpeg wrote: post #135
_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

I think this post needs to be put in context, for months now Cloudflare has been releasing products that allow their whole platform to be usable by agents with the main objective of enabling their customers to dynamically write code using Cloudflare, this is just another step. For example, you can now with Artifacts and Dynamic Workers make a lovable-style SaaS where your customers ask the AI agent to write software…

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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by titularcomment »

dakolli wrote: post #363
raincole wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is Cloudflare. They have an extremely strong incentive to increase bot usage. If there is no bot scrapping the internet they'll be out of business.

I've been using cloudflares remote browser api to bypass their own WAFs for my scrapers for a while, their products and services have been wildly contradictory for a while.

This particular example is not contradictory if you think about it, its essentially a protection racket.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by titularcomment »

palata wrote: post #194
efitz wrote: post #166

IANAL, but I wonder what it means for an agent to “agree” to terms of service or to “agree” to pay for something. Can agents enter into contracts? It’s a straightforward technical problem to wrap an API or MCP or something around the “create an account” function. But what will a court do when the agent creates a million accounts, mines bitcoin for a month, and then cannot or will not pay?

> I wonder what it means for an agent to “agree” to terms of service It's already not clear what it means for humans to do it, but it doesn't prevent every single service from asking it. At least an AI has a chance to ingest it all.

> At least an AI has a chance to ingest it all

Solving humanity's issues, one more issue at a time

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by titularcomment »

saneshark wrote: post #57
Waterluvian wrote: post #11

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Are any of these domains public? I’d love to study and better understand the use case for needing to AIify this.

All of the domains are public. Whenever a new model comes out I like to ask a very specific prompt that helps me identify niche markets with high buyer urgency, have the AI rank them across a rubric, pick the one that has the highest degree of automation potential and then have it build me an MVP. I’m not trying to shamelessly promote here but since you asked one of them is at jobwiz.biz

Asking out of curiosity, have you had material success with this technique?

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by devoria »

The unsolved layer here is failure detection. An agent can call Cloudflare's API and get a 200, but if it actually tried to fetch some user-facing page mid-workflow it'll just see the SPA shell. The agent has no idea anything failed.

Curious if Cloudflare's flow has any built-in "did this actually work" verification, or if it's all "tool returned, move on.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by rattray »

mpeg wrote: post #135
_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

I think this post needs to be put in context, for months now Cloudflare has been releasing products that allow their whole platform to be usable by agents with the main objective of enabling their customers to dynamically write code using Cloudflare, this is just another step. For example, you can now with Artifacts and Dynamic Workers make a lovable-style SaaS where your customers ask the AI agent to write software…

Cool! How'd you build it / what made it work so well?

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by kortilla »

tardedmeme wrote: post #369
kortilla wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite paying rent for an apartment, it’s not rent-seeking. You get a place to live out of it that wouldn’t exist without the owner renting it to you. Rent-seeking is a very specific economic term where a party inserts themselves into a transaction and takes a cut without providing anything: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent-seeking Being a landlord comes with significant responsibilities and even principal investm…

A landlord is partially rent-seeking. Yes they provide the service of making sure the apartment is habitable ( cough ) and so on, but they charge above market price for that. How do I know? I know because I'd do it myself for cheaper if that was an option, but it's not an option because landlords own all the spare apartments. (Why don't I buy one then? They're very expensive because I have to price-match the landlord…

Medallions are artificial limits, land isn’t.

Also your rent comes with significant rights beyond a chunk of land.

It’s not rent-seeking at all. Leasing out a rivalrous asset does not land in that category in the slightest.

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