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AH. So you agree that it's not illegal.
What isn't?
I'm just happy you agree with me.
Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement
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Right but Al Capone did jail time, here Zuck gets to break and enter into people's homes, take their stuff, then haggle for it after-the-fact, all the while keeping the civilization-domination apparatus that he built using the stuff he stole? That is super not fair. Ordinary people could certainly not get away with that.
The US justice system doesn't start from fair. It starts from what you can prove to the letter of the law. And when you're targeting someone / something with unlimited lawyers, you'd better have ironclad evidence that exactly that happened in exactly the way the claim is written.
Okay, sure, but I'm talking about being satisfied. I understand reality and that I may not get the satisfaction I would like. And specifically the example of Al Capone who was, yeah, got for tax evasion, but at least was treated ultimately like the criminal he was.
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It is a leap of faith that they are speaking in good faith as a useful idiot.
I’m simply a regular guy who got exactly what I wanted when Trump was elected. Of course I’m speaking in good faith. That’s why misguided, bad faith participants flag my reasonable remarks or send insults instead of staying on topic. It’s just emotional meltdowns.
Many people also got exactly what they wanted when slavery was legal or when your elected officials had sex with children. There has been justification for both with "reasonable" remarks about eugenics and girls maturing faster. I think you know what you want and just don't care about other people if it helps you specifically.
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What's frustrating is that I don't even consider infringement to be a crime. Why are you all so upset about this, rather than his real crimes?
I'm a copyright abolitionist. I don't care at all that they're training AIs on copyrighted works. I care a lot that they're not getting relentlessly hunted down by the copyright industry for it like all the "pirates" that came before them. The copyright industry has actually ruined lives by litigating their "infringement" nonsense. It's only fair that they go after this guy as well. His constant violation of people's…
Yes, wanting the law to be applied fairly isn't incompatible with also seeking to change it.
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#396That's non-sense to think every single model provider hasn't done this, where are they supposed to get their data from? I think it's a bit unfair to assume it's fine for Kimi, Deepseek or the hundred of other models but not for Meta.
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If you steal a book and read it, should you have to pay every time you use the knowledge gained or recall parts of it from memory?
If I perform a song in public then yes, I should pay the creator every time I play it. I fail to see the difference here.
Live bands are playing songs of known artists all the time, is that actually illegal?
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#398That's non-sense to think every single model provider hasn't done this, where are they supposed to get their data from? I think it's a bit unfair to assume it's fine for Kimi, Deepseek or the hundred of other models but not for Meta.
> I think it's a bit unfair to assume it's fine for Kimi, Deepseek or the hundred of other models but not for Meta.
The difference is how easy they are to sue. Good luck suing Chinese companies over this, but suing American companies is much easier.
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#399Funny how people are suddenly on Elsevier's side. It's clear to me that AI training is transformative fair use under existing law. Maybe this will be the case to prove it.
I think both Elsevier and the people that appropriate IP for training commercially deployed AIs purpose without the consent of the author(s) should be legal.
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#400I had to block meta's ASN on my personal cgit server a few weeks ago because they were ignoring robots.txt and torching it. Like hundreds of megabytes of access logs just from them, spread around different network blocks to clearly try and defeat IP based limiting. I couldn't believe it.
Hey, how do you identify them? Is there a service to recognize which of these companies scrapped you?
Every few weeks I run my nginx access logs through a script that uses the same textual ASN database to tally them up and spit out a summary report. There are many different sources for periodic textual ASN databases you can parse with UNIXy tools.