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How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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.NET Core does not exist anymore: it was renamed to .NET with .NET 5.0 (skipping version 4.0): > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.NET&oldid=134276...

That's because .Net 4 has been the .Net Framework's current version since 2010. It's basically the same reason they never made Windows 9. They dropped the Core designation because they're still trying to encourage people to migrate so they can take .Net Framework out behind the shed where Silverlight went. v5 was a convenient time to start that whole process of re-integration.

> That's because .Net 4 has been the .Net Framework's current version since 2010. [...] They dropped the Core designation because they're still trying to encourage people to migrate so they can take .Net Framework out behind the shed where Silverlight went.

Good points/considerations.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Sorry, but WSL1 was unstable by Microsoft's own admission. That's why Microsoft abandoned it in favor of WSL2 running real Linux in a VM.

Nope, Microsoft redid the design due to the amount of Linux syscalls that were still left to implement. What is this goal post moving? First the was file system access, then it became being unstable, what is going to be the next point? Let me make it easier, WSL 1.0 did not support the syscalls for X Windows implementation.

> What is this goal post moving? First the was file system access, then it became being unstable, what is going to be the next point?

If you can't touch the Linux files with Windows tools without corrupting them, your implementation is unstable.

WSL1 was unstable, unfit for purpose, and never worked properly.

It was abandoned in favor of just running real Linux in a VM.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Probably will use other astrology terms. Like the way android is named for desserts.

It most certainly isn't astrology that was on Google's mind when they decided for Gemini.

Made me curious enough to look it up...

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/products/google-gemini...

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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It reminds me of around 2002 when Microsoft named everything ".net".

And “one” like most Fortune 500 companies.

The first one I remember is RealPlayer. I think the official story was that they were having more and more trouble convincing people to install upgrades (at a time when 56k and slower modems were still common, dowloading an app could take minutes, ugrade nags seemed to be ever present), so they decide to name the new major version RealOne Player "because it's the One, the only One you need, the One that does everything for you".

Of course, this meant that the next time they tried to get anybody to install a patch, some of us felt annoyed because. RealOne Player wasn't "the One" after all. Why should we get back on the treadmill of waiting for downloads that rarely seem necessary?

Ahem. I think this event sensitised me against all attempts at using "one" like that. I mentally flip a table every time.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Devs say a lot of uninformed things. With a heavy predisposition to hating the "legacy" monoliths that are Microsoft and by association GitHub. Yes, Copilot supports skills. Practically all agents support very similar feature sets or are actively building up parity support if not already there. The only real difference between systems is the prompt and payment method. Copilot even allows you to use Anthropic's own sk…

It's a bit rich to go around calling people uninformed because they prefer one harness to another, particularly when you are recommending GHC as comparable to CC.

It’s a bit rich to take the most negative interpretation of my statement, and moreso telling of your insecurities that you chose to be so offended.

And, ultimately, proving my point. Did you actually explain why you thought it’s superior? Or is it just because GitHub bad? Have you even tried it recently?

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Sidenote but I don't get why you would want to pay github to run Claude on your code. Yeah github pays Claude but what's the point ?

I use it because they offer absurdly cheap prices that they're clearly losing money on. I can get $1000 at API prices of Opus 4.6, for in the range of $2 my cost through copilot.

> I can get $1000 at API prices of Opus 4.6, for in the range of $2 my cost through copilot.

Holy moly

I guess it won't last long, abuse it as much as you can right now.

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