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Imagine the outrage if this happened in the US instead because it's in Europe there's just a bunch of apologists here. The longer I live I think US citizens just have the highest standards for both morals and life expectations. Meanwhile Europe is happy to get anything.
There’d be bunch of fat fucks who will write screeds on the internet but won’t get off their fat ass to do anything about it?
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It's simply not possible. EU law has no provisions for kicking a malignant country out. It was simply not foreseen. They can only decide to leave themselves. Which orban will never do because his oligarchs make billions off EU subsidies. If it were it would have happened already.
It's not possible with the current rules. Ultimately if every EU country other than Turkey wants them out, what are they going to do?
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EU is not a synonym of Europe. EU propagandists don't get to define what Europe means. Second. Who gave you the right to define antieuropean union propaganda as a sin. Some people may hate it, some people may love it, other want to change it. It was created by vote, surely it can be whatever the fuck the way the people want by vote.
EU is a synonym for Europe in colloquial conversation the same way USA is a synonym for America.
United Kingdom, Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Russia, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Kosovo, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan
They never quit. They just waited for something else to dominate the news, so they could fly it under the radar. The war started, so, they felt it was now or never.
Who is "they"? That's the key question! There's a small group of very powerful people that keep pushing this agenda. Who are those people? Find out. Publicize their names. Make their corruption visible and linked to their identity . In case anyone has an issue with this: Remember! This is what they want! For you! Not for them. Only the plebs.
The first goal of every bureaucracy is to guarantee its survival and power, all other goals are downstream this first goal.
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You're doing God's work mate. It's really surprising to me that this issue keeps coming up time and time again, until I realised that it's non-voted in parties actually trying to pass this stuff! I didn't realise that the EU parliament simply says yes or no to bills and doesn't actually propose new laws, whilst the EU Commission are appointed and decide on what bills to push through.
The Commission consists of the Member States. So obviously they are also voted-in parties since the government of the Member States is democratically elected
Once removed even from that, the E.C. second level democracy is beyond a farce.
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True but it's a step removed. The MEPs are directly voted in whilst the EC are not, they're "voted in" on account of "voted in" people assigning them to the EC. I mean nobody argues that the FED governor is voted in, right? In reality a lot of people argue that they're unelected and yet making decisions that affect everyone.
The European Commission represents the interests of the member states, while the European Parliament represent the interests of the citizens. NO LAW CAN PASS without the consent of the citizens directly elected representatives. There is no "pushing through". If you don't like how you are represented at the commission, then blame your government. It is THEIR representative - not yours. Also, don't forget that the comm…
Both represent the interests of themselves, the unelected bureucracy, and the elites.
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EU is a synonym for Europe in colloquial conversation the same way USA is a synonym for America.
European countries not part of EU: United Kingdom, Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Russia, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Kosovo, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan