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Wine 11 rewrites how Linux runs Windows games at kernel with massive speed gains

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Re: Wine 11 rewrites how Linux runs Windows games at kernel with massive speed gains

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Post by johanvts »

Arwill wrote: post #307
cultofmetatron wrote: post #291

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Paying for a game that inserts rootkits into your kernel feels like paying money to get molested. no thanks.

Hate to be the one saying this, but that rootkit is there to prevent you from molesting/cheating other players. So its not an one-sided issue. It is unfortunate that the developers found no other way of fighting cheats, sure. And by all means, if a game community is so toxic that it has to be policed by extreme measures, it is perhaps indeed better to avoid playing such a game altogether.

I don’t care if my shooter game “community” is toxic. I don’t have any interaction with the “community” other than to try and virtually kill its members. I wish my chess app had anti-cheat, there are just some people who will cheat and any game is more fun if they can be prevented from playing.

Re: Wine 11 rewrites how Linux runs Windows games at kernel with massive speed gains

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Post by HWR_14 »

worthless-trash wrote: post #303
HWR_14 wrote: post #275

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Does windows make it easy to tell the installer wants to install kernel anti cheat? It used to pop up the generic binary "This application wants to change files on your computer" which could be installing in the protected "Program Files" or could be modifying anything.

I dont think you can even load the "windows" kernel module in wine. Last time i tried with the capcom rootkit, it didnt work at all.

I read the person I was responding to saying they avoided games with root kits for moral, not technical, reasons. So I assumed they were on Windows, and AFAIK, windows just offers binary "changes" permissions which covers anything from installing in the slightly protected Program Files directory to installing a rootkit. In other words, can they even detect they are about to install a root kit?

Re: Wine 11 rewrites how Linux runs Windows games at kernel with massive speed gains

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Post by joe_mamba »

Asmod4n wrote: post #347
joe_mamba wrote: post #160

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NO, I meant Windows games.

Then you can use dosbox-x which can run any non nt windows version and has support for 3d acceleration

Again, I meant windows games, not DOS games.

Re: Wine 11 rewrites how Linux runs Windows games at kernel with massive speed gains

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Post by Asmod4n »

joe_mamba wrote: post #393
Asmod4n wrote: post #347

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Then you can use dosbox-x which can run any non nt windows version and has support for 3d acceleration

Again, I meant windows games, not DOS games.

Windows before NT is just a dos app, and dosbox(-x) can play all windows games up to those which require ME.

Re: Wine 11 rewrites how Linux runs Windows games at kernel with massive speed gains

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Post by qalmakka »

sirjaz wrote: post #388
qalmakka wrote: post #294

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Ironically, SQL Server AFAIK in order to run on Linux uses what basically amounts to a Microsoft reimplementation of Wine. Which always makes me wonder if they'll ever get rid of Windows altogether someday in favour of using Linux + a Win32 shim. I think there are still somewhat strong incentives nowadays to keep NT around, but I wouldn't be that surprised it this happened sometime down the line.

It's a Windows container. It runs the NT kernel and a few minimal other things. The closest would be the Nano Server container

AFAIK it's more like a reimplementation of NT APIs in userspace - aka basically Wine with extra steps, or Linux UM. There was a slide deck going around about Project Drawbridge, here: https://threedots.ovh/slides/Drawbridge.pdf

Re: Wine 11 rewrites how Linux runs Windows games at kernel with massive speed gains

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Post by alfanick »

beAbU wrote: post #364
alfanick wrote: post #350

I would happily pay even a subscription to Wine, if they manage to get Lightroom running smoothly. So far I need to run VM or use a Mac just to do that.

Codeweavers.com They'll take your money, and you'll be contributing to wine. It looks like they do commercial wine projects. Might cost more than a coffee a day tho!

CrossOver support of Lightroom is just as bad a wine... Realistically it will take $20-50k of dev work to make it work (and some other apps as a side effect).

Re: Wine 11 rewrites how Linux runs Windows games at kernel with massive speed gains

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Post by GreenVulpine »

tstenner wrote: post #355
BatteryMountain wrote: post #308

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Now if only Steam would add a checkbox on their checkout page to add 10% donation/tip that goes directly to their upstream opensource dependencies (like the Wine team), that would be amazing! I would add extra money on every purchase to support these people!

Buy a steam deck. It sends a strong signal to Valve to continue supporting Wine and you get a Steam Deck

Unfortunately Steam decks have been out of stock for a while. The AI slop Apocalypse ruined the consumer computing market with chip shortages.

Re: Wine 11 rewrites how Linux runs Windows games at kernel with massive speed gains

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Post by lebed2045 »

hochmartinez wrote: post #318
BatteryMountain wrote: post #308

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Now if only Steam would add a checkbox on their checkout page to add 10% donation/tip that goes directly to their upstream opensource dependencies (like the Wine team), that would be amazing! I would add extra money on every purchase to support these people!

https://www.winehq.org/donate

i pay for crossover license (wine on mac), if i understand correctly, they spend this money on development wine core as well.
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