Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple Business

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

391–400 of 461 posts

Re: Apple Business

#391

Post by cj »

gregoriol wrote: post #388
cj wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We use Apple Business Manager. Locking a domain is not a requirement if you're just doing basic MDM, I'm pretty sure. (I also had a negative experience with it, so we didn't use it and everyone just uses their personal apple IDs). Is it no longer possible to skip this step in setting up the account?

In any serious business, you don't want people to use their personal Apple IDs: that could lock their company provided devices for ever when they leave, you also don't want to buy them apps that you won't be able to re-use when they leave, ...

> that could lock their company provided devices for ever when they leave

MDMs like JamF offer override codes to disable activation lock. Hasn’t been an issue in my experience.

Re: Apple Business

#392

Post by connorgurney »

zzyzxd wrote: post #79

This is interesting to me as the IT support for my family. I have been considering using MDM to provision Wi-Fi credentials and other device configurations. 3rd party solutions are a little bit too much for what I need. Apple Business Essentials with AppleCare+ for 3 devices and 200GB iCloud storage is $19.99 per user/mo. That's the same price as AppleCare One alone.

I’ve been doing exactly this with Jamf Pro for my personal devices. I’ll be interested to see if I can scrap it now.

Re: Apple Business

#393

Post by bombcar »

Kirby64 wrote: post #334
bombcar wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Neo is a phone with a big screen.

Does it matter if the main difference is the OS? Chromebooks are way worse spec wise, and they’re still “phones with big screens” and a different OS. If someone made a windows laptop that was actually good without compromises in an ARM SoC, I’m sure it’d sell well too. The Qualcomm ones seem to have too many compromises today with the OS/driver layer unfortunately.

That last part is the stumbling block for sure - the Microsoft Surface Laptops are nice machines but damn if the driver thing doesn't continually piss me off.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-lapt... but at $900, and the Neo literally just being a Mac and doing everything any other Mac does (except some hardware related limitations like driving a 6k monitor, but doing 4k is "enough for most") means you save $300 and don't run into annoyances like "can't install my printer driver".

Re: Apple Business

#394

Post by tom1337 »

meego wrote: post #77

I recently tried setting Apple Business Manager for our ≈20 people SME. The first step was "Domain Lock/Capture" which takes over all Apple accounts for a specific domain. I've never had a worse experience from Apple. The process is buggy, filled with foot-guns and dead ends. It expects huge amounts of work from users who have had their account for more than a few weeks and are expected to remove a lot of their perso…

Ohh we had a similar experience with Google Cloud. Added our organization and Domain into their Auth system and suddenly all users were migrated into a (invisible / transparent) workspace and could no longer use their calendar or google drive as the workspace had no free usage like you have on a normal free tier.

Re: Apple Business

#395

Post by thepratt »

meego wrote: post #77

I recently tried setting Apple Business Manager for our ≈20 people SME. The first step was "Domain Lock/Capture" which takes over all Apple accounts for a specific domain. I've never had a worse experience from Apple. The process is buggy, filled with foot-guns and dead ends. It expects huge amounts of work from users who have had their account for more than a few weeks and are expected to remove a lot of their perso…

Our recent (ongoing) experience with Apple Business Manager is just as bad. With no reason or contact they've sent "we can't verify so we've disabled your account because you don't meet the requirements". We ring support and they tell us to try again with no additional information. We then get "we can't verify so we've deleted your accounts" with no information. "Amazing" "experience".

This is also after they've verified us (and our DUNS number) for app signing and distribution. We already have a verified account in another service of theirs!

Re: Apple Business

#396

Post by grumbelbart2 »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #35
sosodev wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TSMC. They dominate the semiconductor market because they're consistently first to market with the world's most advanced chip fabrication.

Absolutely not TSMC was and has always been a pure play “execution” of chip foundry, based on the government of Taiwan taking financial bets on a growing chip market. In no way was TSMC the first to market for chips or chip production or even any major chip fab product at its outset. In fact they did exactly the Apple model and took what TI was doing and used government money to scale it. I don’t know a single unique…

TSMC had the first copper interconnects, kind of their breakthrough node at the time, and the first EV-based process.

Re: Apple Business

#398

Post by TimByte »

meego wrote: post #77

I recently tried setting Apple Business Manager for our ≈20 people SME. The first step was "Domain Lock/Capture" which takes over all Apple accounts for a specific domain. I've never had a worse experience from Apple. The process is buggy, filled with foot-guns and dead ends. It expects huge amounts of work from users who have had their account for more than a few weeks and are expected to remove a lot of their perso…

Apple's clean separation model only really works if you start that way from day one

Re: Apple Business

#399

Post by TimByte »

clawoo wrote: post #389
meego wrote: post #77

I recently tried setting Apple Business Manager for our ≈20 people SME. The first step was "Domain Lock/Capture" which takes over all Apple accounts for a specific domain. I've never had a worse experience from Apple. The process is buggy, filled with foot-guns and dead ends. It expects huge amounts of work from users who have had their account for more than a few weeks and are expected to remove a lot of their perso…

I had a "wonderful" experience as well. I wanted to evaluate it for MDM purposes so I applied for an ABM account for a company I work for, got soft-approved, created an entirely new Apple ID (as required by the ABM), used it to log on a test device I intended to manage, then sort of forgot about it while awaiting for Apple to conclude their hard-approval for the ABM account creation. Apple was supposed to contact the…

This is the kind of failure mode that makes people nervous about tightly coupled identity + device management

Re: Apple Business

#400

Post by gregoriol »

drcongo wrote: post #85
bigyabai wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A B2C relationship and a B2B relationship are not the same thing. Apple does well with the B2C pipeline, but they will only surpass Jamf in the B2B department if they play dirty.

By business relationship I meant B2B. They're excellent.

By excellent, you mean excellent at not being able to talk to someone about your real world problem and need to rely on your linkedin contacts to find someone to talk to?
Post reply on HN