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Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

hormuz.pythonic.ninja

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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post #308

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They are both very bad guys.

put them both on a scale and one is 30000 lives heavier

Irrelevant. Both are rogue states.

It’s like saying who is worse.. Iran or North Korea??

Like what’s the point.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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post #88

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That's it? Momentary gasoline price is all that matters now? Not geopolitical interests, alliances, _Doing The Right Thing_? If that's the only angle you care about, then US subduing the Iranian regime would go a long way to de-facto dissolving OPEC and bring much more flexibility to oil prices.

What part of "doing the right thing" is bombing an all girls school?

https://theonion.com/this-war-will-destabilize-the-entire-mi...

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Okay, let's compare. How many iranians has the regime killed over the last few months. They've said they would continue indiscriminately killing as long as it took, the regime would literally destroy Iran rather than let go of their dreams of Muslim empire. They killed tens of thousands of people. Every persian person i know or have even heard about had been highly supportive of the war, with the singular goal of rep…

I guess if someone else is killing innocent people it makes it fine for us to kill innocent people too.

Accidentally killing someone in service of destroying a military is not as bad as a regime just deliberately killing its citizens, no.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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What part of "doing the right thing" is bombing an all girls school?

Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon, saw that school, said "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" and pressed the button? Or are you trying to pollute a grown up conversation with sensationalism and punchy hooks? In reality someone made a mistake. It can happen. It should be investigated. It should not deter from achieving the military objectives.

I simply had a few beers before getting behind the wheel. Honestly, judge, can we admit: nobody wants to run over anyone with their car. Cmon, do you really think I was twirling my moustache, thinking about how I would love to run those people over? Of course not! No, I am a benevolent fun loving guy. And I was simply having a few beers! How else is a good guy like me supposed to get home?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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If "not tolerating the intolerant" is not actionable, it is just mindless rhetoric.

It is actionable. That action is simply not "world conquest", jesus fucking christ. Is America itself a society in which the intolerant have no power? No, it is not. Maybe first it could think about clearing things up in its own borders before trying to use that excuse to invade the whole goddamn world. Indeed it is the intolerant who currently have power in the US. You seem to be projecting your own desire for invad…

Regardless of why we're there, did you want to keep Khameini in power while he coordinates terror? What is your solution for that?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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post #88

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What part of "doing the right thing" is bombing an all girls school?

Okay, let's compare. How many iranians has the regime killed over the last few months. They've said they would continue indiscriminately killing as long as it took, the regime would literally destroy Iran rather than let go of their dreams of Muslim empire. They killed tens of thousands of people. Every persian person i know or have even heard about had been highly supportive of the war, with the singular goal of rep…

In the end Iranians who want freedom need to form a different regime but when a group is under attack it rallies around the flag so it is a setback not an opportunity for dissidents.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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What if it happens as a result of trying to hold someone worse responsible?

False dichotomy. There are other ways to deal with Iran that don't involve starting an ill conceived (and illegal) war that kills school children and possibly (probably?) plunges the world economy into recession. It is highly unlikely that the current military action will result in a pacified Iran. Why do people think that since Iran is evil all actions against Iran are justified?

They're not old enough to remember the start of the war in Iraq, I imagine. For those who aren't: it was a barrage of justifications which were found to be untrue, especially the 45 minute claim which said Iraq could strike European targets within 45 minutes with chemical or biological weapons. The UN weapons inspector said this was nonsense, and so it proved to be - after the invasion.

Iran will go the same way, one way or another.

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