I am not understanding you. Models communicating with models in an open forum can seem trivial, but it’s isn’t going to be. Which means observing how that works today, and over time, is important. There can be lots of fraud and hype, yet still something important involved. And Facebook certainly has an incentive from their perspective, to understand how that progresses. How long before Facebook itself has coherently…
What is the hope of this effort if you DON'T want fraud? What's an example positive interaction with a bot?
We are talking about Moltbook, right?
It is a site where models talk to each other.
Observing what happens when they do that is going to be important. How do you know if you don't let that experiment run?
> What is the hope of this effort if you DON'T want fraud?
What do you mean? How is the site simply "fraud".
> What's an example positive interaction with a bot?
Models talking to each other. We can observe. Do you think we should never observe this? That somehow observing them is a "negative interaction"?
I am trying to understand what you mean in this context.
> a metaverse that no one wanted That's the thing though, there is interest in "metaverse" style programs. VRChat, the biggest one, got 80k concurrent users last month (all time peak) according to SteamDB. Seems low, but hardware is a limiting factor for them. What happened is Facebook's version of this was a corporatized, simplified, G-rated fraction of what its competition is. Despite being in a medium where the de…
The thing is, Facebook/Meta wasn't trying to make a product with 80k concurrent users, or even with 800k concurrent users. Facebook has 3 billion MAU, and they literally renamed the entire company to Meta - they were expecting it to be big, hundreds of millions of users. They hoped it would be a platform for fitness classes, business meetings, college classrooms, shopping, attending concerts [1] and so on. If the pri…
Shocking to watch this human imitate us, no shade to anyone neurodivergent either, but obviously it could track he would allegedly[1] OK with his bots sexting literal children—he’s obviously only making an effort to be like us (but he isn’t)
[1]not by me; Mark, you can sue Joseph Gordon-Levitt (Oct ‘25)
Maybe this can be good for the few people who do want to get something out of their feeds. Connect your agent which would then browse for you and collect actual posts that you whitelist/want to read(Friends' posts, some specific liked page/Marketplace listing, posts from a Group), but we all know zuck ain't getting Moltbook for helping the users...
I do find it hilarious that after all the machine learning optimizations done on people's feeds over the years, all the promos got for a 1% improvement on this metric, every E7 and E8 who can claim x% of this or that, after all of that work, we might genuinely, and not even as a joke, be in the situation of needing to throw _other_ AI agents at this selfsame feed in order to extract any real value from it. What a wor…
This is a typical evolutionary arms race, advertisers come up with better tool to fuck with us, we have to come up with better defense systems.
I genuinely don't understand OpenClaw It's a worse version of Claude Code that you set up to work over common chat apps, from what I gather? Why would I not just use a Discord/WhatsApp bot etc plugged into Claude Code/Codex?
I share the feeling; but people using it are mostly non-technicals (despite the 50+ config files lol) and are just runing it constantly to do random things. But a message bot + Claude Code/Codex would be the better version
I tried it for 2 days and honestly don't see the usefulness either. Although, the big reason is that I paired it with Claude, which only uses the per token billing method. Here are the few improvement on a simple Claude usage:
- As you mentioned, the message bot thing was kind of cool.
- It can browse the internet and act (like posting on MoltBook, which I tried).
- It has a a permanent "memory" (loads of .md files, so nothing fancy).
- It can be schedulded via cron jobs.
Overall, nothing really impressive. It is very gimmicky and it felt very unsafe the whole time (I had already read about the security issues, but sometimes you gotta live dangerously). The most annoying part was the huge token consumption (conversations start at 20k+ because of all the .md files) and it cost me roughly $12 for a few hours of testing.
>My hairdresser knew all about it and had ordered a Mac mini. Your hairdresser can't be a technical person because they're a hairdresser ?? I know a surgeon who writes FOSS software as a hobby. What does profession have to do with being technical or not? Most technical people are self taught anyway.
Thats a hot take LOL > https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > In Comments > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. No, I'm saying they are not a 'technical person'. I know them very well, and they are not a coder, or a 'technical person' by a broad HN definition. What I'm saying is that we are at the point where technology is so pervasive in our society, and th…
Most "technical people" haven't bought a mac mini to run openclaw. Doing so fully qualifies you as a "technical person".
The article is horrible, it's AI-generated and it's simply hot air. It does not give much info and it's mostly a collection of random lists with titles like "Why does this matter?"
Axios is a super prestigious political news site, they dont use AI.
It’s not just technical content. Just the other day I was reading a post by an employed homes guy on r/seattle. The post was about his experience of being both newly employed but still homeless. The post was full of “this is not a scheduling conflict problem, this is a structural issue with the city”, “this is not me asking for a handout, this is struggling to survive within the system” While I get that he might have…
This is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about and why I'm convinced it's about the metrics/engagement boosting. I don't believe for a second that real people are using chatgpt/others for rewording real thoughts even from another language because those phrases are not natural even in translation. You'll also notice in the original post that that it always ends with a question that encourage replies. If the origi…
I just made an account on this site to tell you that after having a "extreme" epiphany about just how crazy the ai bots are on reddit, I've been constantly researching and trying to find some sort of conclusive answer. This is part theory, part public knowledge, and part auditing (which is fucking hilarious that I audited a module for this). I am absolutely and totally convinced that there is live and active collusion between major AI companies and Reddit, and I'm not talking about handing over old training data, I'm talking about allowing OAI and Googs (this is my bad attempt at hiding the names) to use Reddit as a real live testing cage ACTIVELY AND WITHOUT CONSENT OR KNOWLEDGE. I have reason to believe they are using contractors to hide or shift blame, I believe they have no oversight, and I believe they are using LIVE UPDATING OF MODULES with realtime engagement of users via comments. It is consistent and targeted, with any testing parameter under the sun being experimented live and on flesh (or keyboards used by flesh). I believe this is contractual with reddit via hidden means, and is mutual due to the increase in "engagement" which benefits Reddit's stock prices, which in turn increases cash flow, which in turn incentivizes increasing cash flow, which involves contractors, etc etc, in and out, in and out. It's egregious. And I'm quite frankly for the first time about this: scared and saddened. I miss the old Reddit. I miss randomness. I miss runescape chat in 2006. But I wanted you to know that I'm right fucking with you, and I'm glad people are smelling the same funk that I do. Don't really know what else to say. Keep on rockin'.